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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: Teaching French and English |
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Just wondering if being qualified to teach English and French would result in me teaching both at the same time. I have a 4-year B.A. in TESL for both languages. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm
It will be easier to find a job teaching English, however the pay is much lower.
MUCH lower.
Not many French come here, and as such the demand isn't as high. But- you should be able to net $50 an hour. That is, if you can prove you lived in France.  |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Stick to English as there are quite a few Korean adoptees from France vying for any work they can get. Demand for French is a far cry from that for English, with second-place going to Chinese and third place Japanese, Arabic or Russian, though I'm not sure about the latter.
There is a small but steady French community in Seoul at Seorae village near Express Bus Terminal subway station. Most of the expats who live there work for French companies doing business in or with Korea. |
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Troglodyte

Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I've found that a lot of Koreans have a hard time believing that someone can be fluent in more than their mother tongue. If you announce that you are fluent in another language they'll either not believe you (e.g. you obviously aren't from China so you can't be fluent in Mandarin) or they'll have suspicions about whether English really is your native language (e.g. you claim to be fluent in German, so maybe THAT's your native language). In the latter case, it hurts your reputation and someone will claim that they can hear that you have a non-native accent in English.
You might get some private lessons teaching French, especially in a large city, but I wouldn't recommend telling it to your main employer.
Similarly, I found the same mentality in China. |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Troglodyte wrote: |
I've found that a lot of Koreans have a hard time believing that someone can be fluent in more than their mother tongue. If you announce that you are fluent in another language they'll either not believe you (e.g. you obviously aren't from China so you can't be fluent in Mandarin) or they'll have suspicions about whether English really is your native language (e.g. you claim to be fluent in German, so maybe THAT's your native language). In the latter case, it hurts your reputation and someone will claim that they can hear that you have a non-native accent in English.
You might get some private lessons teaching French, especially in a large city, but I wouldn't recommend telling it to your main employer.
Similarly, I found the same mentality in China. |
This.
I'm concerned about declaring myself as fully bilingual because Koreans seem rather shortsighted in terms of bilingualism. In a way, it's not really their fault -- how often do you meet a Korean with native-like ability in two or more languages? No very often, mostly by virtue of the fact that Korea is essentially a heterogeneous country with very little immigration.
It seems a shame that I'd have to lie about the fact that I did my K-12 in a French school, that I have an Hon. Spec. in DLS, and that I work as a translator for the Gov't of Canada. You'd think being qualified to teach both French and English would be a blessing.
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yaya wrote: |
Stick to English as there are quite a few Korean adoptees from France vying for any work they can get. Demand for French is a far cry from that for English, with second-place going to Chinese and third place Japanese, Arabic or Russian, though I'm not sure about the latter.
There is a small but steady French community in Seoul at Seorae village near Express Bus Terminal subway station. Most of the expats who live there work for French companies doing business in or with Korea. |
I thought Koreans had a filthy hardon for anything French. |
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Landros

Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: FRANCE |
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I think most Koreans think of French as cultural thieves first who took their artifacts and won't return them and second as stuck up types who look down at Korea for eating Dog. that is people in General. I'm sure there are many Koreans who are interested in things French and appreciate your knowledge and what not but yeah I think the problem arises that to teach English here a Bachelor degree from an English speaking country is required but you could go to a French Uni in Canada so they are suspicious. |
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Ruthdes

Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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There are companies where it will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage. PM sent. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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Landros wrote: |
I think most Koreans think of French as cultural thieves first who took their artifacts and won't return them and second as stuck up types who look down at Korea for eating Dog. that is people in General. I'm sure there are many Koreans who are interested in things French and appreciate your knowledge and what not but yeah I think the problem arises that to teach English here a Bachelor degree from an English speaking country is required but you could go to a French Uni in Canada so they are suspicious. |
Where did you get that opinion? Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Seoul Special City
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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Yaya wrote: |
Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
You mean they come back French?
sorry couldn't resist |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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crisdean wrote: |
Yaya wrote: |
Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
You mean they come back French?
sorry couldn't resist |
Let me guess... you're American? |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Seoul Special City
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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Charlie Bourque wrote: |
crisdean wrote: |
Yaya wrote: |
Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
You mean they come back French?
sorry couldn't resist |
Let me guess... you're American? |
Well you know what they say about when you assume...
At any rate you'd be wrong, definitely not American. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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Charlie Bourque wrote: |
crisdean wrote: |
Yaya wrote: |
Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
You mean they come back French?
sorry couldn't resist |
Let me guess... you're American? |
Like it matters. |
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Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: here
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: Re: FRANCE |
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crisdean wrote: |
Yaya wrote: |
Many Koreans go to France for travel or study, though for the most part, Koreans who've lived in France come back weird in a bad way. |
You mean they come back French?
sorry couldn't resist |
No. They come back loving Jerry Lewis...  |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Are you all implying that Koreans return from France as assholes because the French are assholes?
I thought that was a distinctly American way of thinking, but I guess I was wrong.
In any case, this discussion reminded me of a scene from Talladega Nights. Skip to 1:20 for the best scene in the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hiFfn0VzrE |
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