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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| But what you don't seem to understand is that you aren't in the hunt anyway. They don't want you! You have nothing to offer them! You have a non-related degree and a few years hagwon experience which no-one cares about but you. You seem to fail to grasp that not only the market has changed but so has the hiring criteria. |
It always surprises me that people who have finished a few contracts in hagwons/public schools in Korea not only think it's a good thing to do so, but that they are entitled to something better because of it.
Here's a newsflash: jumping around from job to job does not look good on your resume. And here's another shock: employers actually want their teachers to be qualified and to be able to teach English
So if you have an unrelated degree you will be at the bottom rung and only able to teach at shitty hagwons. I say good on the employers for actually caring more about who they hire than just another white face. |
This is the OP in a nutshell, Stu. He wants the times to roll back to 1996 when you could get a university job on the back of hagwon/PS experience but is affronted because Korean universities demand further qualifications from their prospective teachers these days.
It is OK to complete 'x' number of contracts but most people doing the hiring and firing want someone a bit more on the ball as time goes on. A masters shows (in my opinion) that you are willing to improve your skillset. The OP doesn't want to do that because it is too much like hard work, nor does he want to re-camp somewhere else where he would be able to live the life he wants for the little he offers in return. He wants the big money, time off and the prestige of it all without giving anything back to the employer daft enough to take him on. What the OP should consider is China or Vietnam but instead he would rather bang his head against a wall and hope against hope that the job situation will revert back to 1996. Bcj - it is not going to happen anytime soon. |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| But what you don't seem to understand is that you aren't in the hunt anyway. They don't want you! You have nothing to offer them! You have a non-related degree and a few years hagwon experience which no-one cares about but you. You seem to fail to grasp that not only the market has changed but so has the hiring criteria. |
It always surprises me that people who have finished a few contracts in hagwons/public schools in Korea not only think it's a good thing to do so, but that they are entitled to something better because of it.
Here's a newsflash: jumping around from job to job does not look good on your resume. And here's another shock: employers actually want their teachers to be qualified and to be able to teach English
So if you have an unrelated degree you will be at the bottom rung and only able to teach at shitty hagwons. I say good on the employers for actually caring more about who they hire than just another white face. |
This is the OP in a nutshell, Stu. He wants the times to roll back to 1996 when you could get a university job on the back of hagwon/PS experience but is affronted because Korean universities demand further qualifications from their prospective teachers these days.
It is OK to complete 'x' number of contracts but most people doing the hiring and firing want someone a bit more on the ball as time goes on. A masters shows (in my opinion) that you are willing to improve your skillset. The OP doesn't want to do that because it is too much like hard work, nor does he want to re-camp somewhere else where he would be able to live the life he wants for the little he offers in return. He wants the big money, time off and the prestige of it all without giving anything back to the employer daft enough to take him on. What the OP should consider is China or Vietnam but instead he would rather bang his head against a wall and hope against hope that the job situation will revert back to 1996. Bcj - it is not going to happen anytime soon. |
Hey Wiganer! Here's the BEST parody blog I ever wrote about you. I got so many hits and emails from it....
"And now, let�s take a minute to listen to NAME and his very own adventure in China, in his own words in this letter from himself to his mother:
Dear Mum,
I have been in China for quite a tad now, and I do say, I find it hard to adapt to this culture, must like my experiences in Korea, a peninsula that seems to cater to the American wanker crowd. Although, I do often chat with an American on yahoo who keeps me up to snuff on the runaround in the bando I used to work for me fixins in. Doesn�t cost me a quid, and I find Skype a bit too much of abomination to manipulate in post-haste fashion. Especially after tea time when my shirt and desk are covered with dribblings and dumplings and so on.
I find the Chinese food is more for my tummy to take, and I have got a case of the sh*tes at least twice a week, so I often find myself wearing large cloth diapers which I constructed myself from old shirts. Sometimes, when I sh*te myself in front of the class, my students laugh at me, as I waddle like a penguin out of the classroom to the nearest Chinese toilet, which I always end up sitting on the floor, with my cheeks pressed to the other people�s sh*te on the rim. It makes me cry with shame, mum, I�m too big and dimwitted for my own good. At least the only KFC in town makes my mouth happy like the Cornish hens and dumplings I was raised with, and all that choco pudding. My Chinese girlfriend makes me tea everyday at 3pm, like I�m royalty, and like I tell me mates back home, �If I can get mutton in China, anyone can.� Unless of course you are total turdish incompetent wanker.
When I first flew out here I thought of putting a lime in my mouth so I wouldn�t get scurvy on the Air China flight I was on, with all the under-washed expats aboard giving the cabin a go and what not like the never-never section of a department store. Then I thought to myself, jibba-jabba, ta-ta, I am one of them, too. We�re like primates getting pissed at hundreds and hundreds of meters above the sea, while the captain tips his hat in bitter remorse, ever so politely reminding us of the bumpies ahead.
The job itself is usually a bloody cake walk, though grading and record keeping takes its toll, from time to time. The fact is I�m a good teacher and I know it, I get the job done, right, and leave every employer on excellent terms. Still, I�d love to move back to Britain one day and become a nurse and work with my hands in a hospital. I�m sure I�d make an excellent male nurse, as long as the temper doesn�t get my goat and make me bumble and tumble, like a piggy searching for his truffle.
Things are dirty in the town I work in, and I see boys and grown men piss up walls in side alleys like its Victoria�s England, circa 1890, complete with dirt roads and horse-drawn buggies, and little boys acting like town couriers trying to sell me on the local Chinese paper. Can�t say I�m learning Chinese, though, I�ve only been here a year or so, and just don�t feel like learning it. What can I say, learning a language is dumb.
My apartment is always a proper spread I can crash and catch up with what�s worth catching up to, thanks in part to BBC, the finest news channel on TV, which only makes me proud of my British lineage and the sun that never sets on my empire. When I get my third leg a go-go with my Chinese girlfriend, she spends most of her time on top, since I�m so big and scary right. That American wanker 'OP' I was telling you about was comparing me to Fat Bastard from Austin Powers 2, which I found offending, since I�m not Scottish. Last name *******�you know where that turd�s ancestry is. Scottish bloody Scottish, as in not the country Bono the bon*r comes from.
Sometimes on Friday nights I go to the bar to play craps with a few schillings and make some noise with the gents from the UK I know here. I have always been a shifty billiard player, but my dart game has improved. It�s great going through life not caring about money, no worries, no hurries. Soon I�ll be 40, but in my own special way, richer than any man alive, with the beautiful Chinese woman in my life. I can�t wait to have my first child and have him blessed by the Lord Jesus Christ in Westminster Abbey. Anyway, I�ve got a football league to join, and make one hell of a goalie: I just have to lie down, and nothing gets by me, no need to bend it like Beckham. American�s idea of football is like sissy version of rugby�how do they play with all that bloody equipment on, me thinks?
Overall I can�t complain about my life in China, mum. It�s a good one and I wish I could spend more time with you, and I hope you can visit me sometime. My vision is still sound after the surgery, and I can see like a bloody American Bald Eagle. Just have to remember to stock up on old clothes for you-know-what and go easy on all the Chinese delicacies.
Hugs, kisses and cheers, mumma
XOXOXO
NAME, your little-big man^^
P.S.
I see some royalty is getting married on the tube. Fine trashy troll the prince has picked out with his pr*ck. He would have been better off with one of Sarah Palin�s daughters from the States. The trash the Royal Family takes in to propagate the bloodline is appalling, it�s like they go shopping for mutton in that gypsy trailer camp from the movie �Snatch� and find a girl who looks like she�s been spread around London Bridges ten times over after school, daily, during her salad days. Two Wigamores or a Roundhead of the troubles centuries ago could have found a tastier snack for child rearing and national service in Buckingham Palace. There will always be an England, but by God, there will always be royalty with piss-poor taste in women. |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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It is a pretty crap parody, even by your standards - humourless, witless and makes no sense at all. You know I don't speak like that - a cross between Jimmy Nail and Dick van Dyke! What time is it over there in Pittsburgh? Shouldn't you be asleep, ready for a hard days work tomorrow? I take it you haven't found a job in the past four months of being home? What a waste of space, you really should be finding a job and your own place and getting out of your mum's hair.
South Korea is out. I know back in 1990 you watched 'Ferris Bueller's day off' and thought you could model your life on him. It was only a FILM! It wasn't real life, you have to excel sometime and not live your life in the bargain basement because you cannot be bothered - ask Matthew Broderick if you don't believe me. You have a crap degree from a crap institution and thus you have a crap CV that doesn't cut it anymore regards Korean TEFL. My advice is good, get yourself qualified because at this moment in time, you've got nothing, you are not qualified one iota.
Like a lot of people in Korea - you stumbled into English teaching when your worthless degree couldn't get you your sales job in America - the smart ones however made sure they got the extra qualifications so they can stay employed and progress into something worthwhile. You tried when you went to Prague to do your CELTA but you failed and had to go back to Korea.. what was it... 10000 pounds out of pocket? Hope you saw and took some nice pictures of Wenceslas square at least.
And before you type another word, you know and I know that the only reason you are banging out your bile and projection on this computer is because you are too far away for me to stretch your scrawny neck with my own bare hands, knowing that if we were both back in Bundang you would keep your mouth shut. Not that I would do it anyway, you are too scrawny, weak and worthless for me to give a hiding to. You deserve a hiding but I will let karma take it's course. (if it isn't already)
BJ - you know and I know NOBODY gives two figs about your writing on facebook - the only people who cared was me and RM. That you have to lie about the so-called emails people sent you because you wrote something shows how pathetic and insecure you are. You can sell it to someone who doesn't know you but don't sell it to ME for Christ's sakes! |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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| This is getting personal! I love it!!!! |
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oxfordstu

Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe how many spelling and grammar mistakes are in that "blog" - and you want to teach English to university students???  |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe how many spelling and grammar mistakes are in that "blog" - and you want to teach English to university students???  |
Lighten up, buddy. I was trying to imitate the way Wiganer talks: like some kind of side character from 'Snatch' or 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.' Guess the British spelling is off here and there; pardon mois sil vous plait. Nice profile pic, btw. I've got no beef with you, for the record, and here are some of my published, more serious works:
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/gwangju.html
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/itaewon.html
Now everyone knows my first and last name; not like I care.
Tell you what I'd like to do more than teach at a uni in Korea: become a scientist or engineer, but alas, time and money are never on my side, and it's not like my family is going to take me in like they're temporarily letting me couch surf now. Guess I could get some online computer science degree or certificate in computer programming when I'm back. BTW, I'm lining up a sweet 1-730 hogwon in Seoul, which looks better than any public school in Korea. What can I say, I applied to a ton of jobs in the States, but no luck there. At least I can go back to the peninsula with a clear conscience, because I both have to and want to at the same time. Take it or leave it. Beats couch surfing unemployed in the States with no job skills and no job prospects.
I find it interesting how licensed teachers look down on us "hacks" with no license in Korea; the way (perhaps) a Doctor thinks a nurse is inferior to him or a lawyer thinks a paralegal is inferior to him. Maybe you can elaborate a bit for me. Hey now, I might not have job skills, but at least I have writing skills....or so I've been told. |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:52 am Post subject: |
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It is a pretty crap parody, even by your standards - humourless, witless and makes no sense at all. You know I don't speak like that - a cross between Jimmy Nail and Dick van Dyke! What time is it over there in Pittsburgh? Shouldn't you be asleep, ready for a hard days work tomorrow? I take it you haven't found a job in the past four months of being home? What a waste of space, you really should be finding a job and your own place and getting out of your mum's hair.
South Korea is out. I know back in 1990 you watched 'Ferris Bueller's day off' and thought you could model your life on him. It was only a FILM! It wasn't real life, you have to excel sometime and not live your life in the bargain basement because you cannot be bothered - ask Matthew Broderick if you don't believe me. You have a crap degree from a crap institution and thus you have a crap CV that doesn't cut it anymore regards Korean TEFL. My advice is good, get yourself qualified because at this moment in time, you've got nothing, you are not qualified one iota.
Like a lot of people in Korea - you stumbled into English teaching when your worthless degree couldn't get you your sales job in America - the smart ones however made sure they got the extra qualifications so they can stay employed and progress into something worthwhile. You tried when you went to Prague to do your CELTA but you failed and had to go back to Korea.. what was it... 10000 pounds out of pocket? Hope you saw and took some nice pictures of Wenceslas square at least.
And before you type another word, you know and I know that the only reason you are banging out your bile and projection on this computer is because you are too far away for me to stretch your scrawny neck with my own bare hands, knowing that if we were both back in Bundang you would keep your mouth shut. Not that I would do it anyway, you are too scrawny, weak and worthless for me to give a hiding to. You deserve a hiding but I will let karma take it's course. (if it isn't already)
BJ - you know and I know NOBODY gives two figs about your writing on facebook - the only people who cared was me and RM. That you have to lie about the so-called emails people sent you because you wrote something shows how pathetic and insecure you are. You can sell it to someone who doesn't know you but don't sell it to ME for Christ's sakes! |
Hope I didn't spoil your appetite, little-big man  |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe how many spelling and grammar mistakes are in that "blog" - and you want to teach English to university students???  |
Lighten up, buddy. I was trying to imitate the way Wiganer talks: like some kind of side character from 'Snatch' or 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.' Guess the British spelling is off here and there; pardon mois sil vous plait. Nice profile pic, btw. I've got no beef with you, for the record, and here are some of my published, more serious works:
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/gwangju.html
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/itaewon.html
Now everyone knows my first and last name; not like I care.
Tell you what I'd like to do more than teach at a uni in Korea: become a scientist or engineer, but alas, time and money are never on my side, and it's not like my family is going to take me in like they're temporarily letting me couch surf now. Guess I could get some online computer science degree or certificate in computer programming when I'm back. BTW, I'm lining up a sweet 1-730 hogwon in Seoul, which looks better than any public school in Korea. What can I say, I applied to a ton of jobs in the States, but no luck there. At least I can go back to the peninsula with a clear conscience, because I both have to and want to at the same time. Take it or leave it. Beats couch surfing unemployed in the States with no job skills and no job prospects.
I find it interesting how licensed teachers look down on us "hacks" with no license in Korea; the way (perhaps) a Doctor thinks a nurse is inferior to him or a lawyer thinks a paralegal is inferior to him. Maybe you can elaborate a bit for me. Hey now, I might not have job skills, but at least I have writing skills....or so I've been told. |
BJ, BJ, BJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ -Noooooooooooooooo - not this scientist claptrap again! You have as much chance of becoming a scientist as I have becoming the next chancellor of Germany! How are you going to pass a science degree when you couldn't even pass a four week CELTA in Prague - how much did that l'il venture set you back Einstein?
You are not a scientist, no you are not - you know everyone laughs at you when you come out with your 'I am going to be a scientist and earn a 100 grand a year' claptrap. I have got an uncle and a cousin who graduated from one of the best science universities on the planet (Imperial College, London) and you are nothing like them. Give it a rest with projecting your fantasies and pipe dreams on here. Nobody gives a shite!
I am not one to knock down a mans dreams because at times it is all we have, but if you knew this guy - you would be saying what I am saying now. Not that it matters because he doesn't listen to anybody anyway whilst repeating himself ad naseum with the same old crap. A bit like Dustin Hoffman's character in 'Rainman' when he and Tom Cruise are at the airport. 'Qantas, Qantas, Qantas' |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe how many spelling and grammar mistakes are in that "blog" - and you want to teach English to university students???  |
Lighten up, buddy. I was trying to imitate the way Wiganer talks: like some kind of side character from 'Snatch' or 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.' Guess the British spelling is off here and there; pardon mois sil vous plait. Nice profile pic, btw. I've got no beef with you, for the record, and here are some of my published, more serious works:
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/gwangju.html
http://www.busanhaps.com/mag_content/itaewon.html
Now everyone knows my first and last name; not like I care.
Tell you what I'd like to do more than teach at a uni in Korea: become a scientist or engineer, but alas, time and money are never on my side, and it's not like my family is going to take me in like they're temporarily letting me couch surf now. Guess I could get some online computer science degree or certificate in computer programming when I'm back. BTW, I'm lining up a sweet 1-730 hogwon in Seoul, which looks better than any public school in Korea. What can I say, I applied to a ton of jobs in the States, but no luck there. At least I can go back to the peninsula with a clear conscience, because I both have to and want to at the same time. Take it or leave it. Beats couch surfing unemployed in the States with no job skills and no job prospects.
I find it interesting how licensed teachers look down on us "hacks" with no license in Korea; the way (perhaps) a Doctor thinks a nurse is inferior to him or a lawyer thinks a paralegal is inferior to him. Maybe you can elaborate a bit for me. Hey now, I might not have job skills, but at least I have writing skills....or so I've been told. |
BJ, BJ, BJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ -Noooooooooooooooo - not this scientist claptrap again! You have as much chance of becoming a scientist as I have becoming the next chancellor of Germany! How are you going to pass a science degree when you couldn't even pass a four week CELTA in Prague - how much did that l'il venture set you back Einstein?
You are not a scientist, no you are not - you know everyone laughs at you when you come out with your 'I am going to be a scientist and earn a 100 grand a year' claptrap. I have got an uncle and a cousin who graduated from one of the best science universities on the planet (Imperial College, London) and you are nothing like them. Give it a rest with projecting your fantasies and pipe dreams on here. Nobody gives a shite!
I am not one to knock down a mans dreams because at times it is all we have, but if you knew this guy - you would be saying what I am saying now. Not that it matters because he doesn't listen to anybody anyway whilst repeating himself ad naseum with the same old crap. A bit like Dustin Hoffman's character in 'Rainman' when he and Tom Cruise are at the airport. 'Qantas, Qantas, Qantas' |
Tell me, CH....how was it like not owning a cell phone, a laptop/PC/internet access, or even a digital camera for your entire year in GEPIK? No offense, but you're the only person I even knew in Korea, roughly the highest tech country in the world, that owned none of these things.
Dude, what did you do with your spare time and money? You weren't going to parties, clubs, bars, PMing K-girls on UBLove, you didn't have any hobbies or electronics (minus the gym membership, but that didn't help much, ha!) or even a pair of hiking shoes. I can vouch for most of the above in my life in Korea, plus the peninsula made me the pool and card shark I am! BAM!
If you want to have some online mud sling fest on who has the worst social skills on the Korean peninsula, bring it, but be careful...the pen is mightier than the sword, and my writing skills will vanquish you!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's write, I said VANQUISH. And btw, I'll never forget that letter you wrote me months ago about the "grand finale" (at the time) of my "career" in Korea...dude, it was funny. At least we know which of us has a sense of humor.
CH, your as funny the old Yogi Bear cartoons, buddy. Hi-5.  |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Tell me, CH....how was it like not owning a cell phone, a laptop/PC/internet access, or even a digital camera for your entire year in GEPIK? No offense, but you're the only person I even knew in Korea, roughly the highest tech country in the world, that owned none of these things. |
Who cares? Why do you care if I had a laptop or a mobile phone or whatever - I didn't care because I would have had them.
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Lifting weights, boxing, meeting up with friends - including the people we both knew and am still in touch with today.
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Hiking? Brought my bench press up to 120kgs - pretty impressive eh? That is about 6 times your bodyweight you little wimp!
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| I can vouch for most of the above in my life in Korea, plus the peninsula made me the pool and card shark I am! BAM! |
Good for you. And now you are going back to buying more electronics, playing more poker, hiking more hills, potting more pool balls - why go 8000 miles to do all that though? Why not stay in Pittsburgh and do all that?
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| If you want to have some online mud sling fest on who has the worst social skills on the Korean peninsula, bring it, but be careful...the pen is mightier than the sword, and my writing skills will vanquish you!!! |
You have very little in the way of writing skills - a quick look at your posting history shows that you are self obsessed with getting on an after school programme or a college job and that is all you write about. If you put as much effort into getting the qualifications towards getting the college job rather than writing stupid blogs about it - you would be Head of English at SNU.
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That's write? No wonder you failed that CELTA in Prague.
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And btw, I'll never forget that letter you wrote me months ago about the "grand finale" (at the time) of my "career" in Korea...dude, it was funny. At least we know which of us has a sense of humor.  |
It was all true. Have you watched Ferris Buellers day off lately? |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Tell me, CH....how was it like not owning a cell phone, a laptop/PC/internet access, or even a digital camera for your entire year in GEPIK? No offense, but you're the only person I even knew in Korea, roughly the highest tech country in the world, that owned none of these things. |
Who cares? Why do you care if I had a laptop or a mobile phone or whatever - I didn't care because I would have had them.
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| Dude, what did you do with your spare time and money? |
Lifting weights, boxing, meeting up with friends - including the people we both knew and am still in touch with today.
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| You weren't going to parties, clubs, bars, PMing K-girls on UBLove, you didn't have any hobbies or electronics (minus the gym membership, but that didn't help much, ha!) or even a pair of hiking shoes. |
Hiking? Brought my bench press up to 120kgs - pretty impressive eh? That is about 6 times your bodyweight you little wimp!
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| I can vouch for most of the above in my life in Korea, plus the peninsula made me the pool and card shark I am! BAM! |
Good for you. And now you are going back to buying more electronics, playing more poker, hiking more hills, potting more pool balls - why go 8000 miles to do all that though? Why not stay in Pittsburgh and do all that?
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| If you want to have some online mud sling fest on who has the worst social skills on the Korean peninsula, bring it, but be careful...the pen is mightier than the sword, and my writing skills will vanquish you!!! |
You have very little in the way of writing skills - a quick look at your posting history shows that you are self obsessed with getting on an after school programme or a college job and that is all you write about. If you put as much effort into getting the qualifications towards getting the college job rather than writing stupid blogs about it - you would be Head of English at SNU.
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That's write? No wonder you failed that CELTA in Prague.
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And btw, I'll never forget that letter you wrote me months ago about the "grand finale" (at the time) of my "career" in Korea...dude, it was funny. At least we know which of us has a sense of humor.  |
It was all true. Have you watched Ferris Buellers day off lately? |
No I haven't, its been a long time...and truth be told I'm sure plenty of us would like to have great paying jobs in our own contries; in regards to your response of what 5% of my blog topics are about. I pretty much was forced to quit that CELTA thing because I was "borderline" by the end of week 3, and was totally burned out. The fact is if I had an enjoyable job in my own country that paid a lot of money, I probably wouldn't go back to Korea. The Peninsula allows me to work on my writing, have lots of time and money on my hands, not deal with the hassle of a car and rent, work on a degree online...as supposed to making $8 an hour in retail or $10-12 an hour as an admin assistant and just scraping by.
All the kids I knew in high school that got into all kinds of healthcare professions, engineering, accounting, computer science...they're making money, that's for sure. Most college kids these days have liberal arts degrees coming out of school and tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and not a lot to offer employers...which is SCARY, by the stretch of any imagination.
Truth be told: I can have a friend tell anyone that if I don't proofread carefully, I often get THERE and THEIR mixed up. Often, I'm typing so fast I just don't even think of it, 'cause I don't want to stop the flow of writing from my mind to my finger tips...but damn...that WRITE where RIGHT should have been blows my mind, so for the record, you got me THEIR buddy...or is it THERE? HA! Even now when I thumb through something like 'The Elements of Style' by E.B. White and William Strunk Jr and wrap my head around clean, professional writing methodology (ie, NOT the parody letter above^^) it amazes me as far as one can come, they can still sometimes make the same simple mistakes as anyone...always good to have another proofread for you.
BTW: I'm not from or in Pittsburgh, Philly, or any part of PA.
And to what the guy with the bikini avatar was saying about "job hopping"....when are you NOT a job hopper? When you have a different job every two years? Three years? Four years? Ten years? Enlighten me. |
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wiganer
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No I haven't, its been a long time...and truth be told I'm sure plenty of us would like to have great paying jobs in our own contries; in regards to your response of what 5% of my blog topics are about. I pretty much was forced to quit that CELTA thing because I was "borderline" by the end of week 3, and was totally burned out. The fact is if I had an enjoyable job in my own country that paid a lot of money, I probably wouldn't go back to Korea. The Peninsula allows me to work on my writing, have lots of time and money on my hands, not deal with the hassle of a car and rent, work on a degree online...as supposed to making $8 an hour in retail or $10-12 an hour as an admin assistant and just scraping by. |
So you are in Korea even though you would rather be in America but you can't get a job. Well, fair play for being honest. And fair play for being honest about the easy life you can have in Korea. So - what the hell has hiking and playing pool have got to do with it? Nothing! Nada! Nicht!
As for your burnout with CELTA - you are an English teacher - you should be able to pass CELTA and not be 'burned out' by week 3. How on earth do you think you are going to pass a 3-4 year science degree! You are no more a scientist than me or most people on here - come on!
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Yes it is, but you either sit by the sidelines, complain and fight for the scraps with everyone else or you upgrade your qualifications and go for the better jobs with more pay. You have admitted yourself you are a Korea 'lifer' well make it work then! One year on a MA TESOL (and properly study for it - you are not stupid, you are just bone idle) and you can apply for well paying jobs all over the world! Your ambition of getting a 'college job in Seoul' is not unattainable. I do believe you are a good teacher. But no-one is going to hire you with what you've got now. So stop moaning about how unfair the world is (because you know it already) and do something about it.
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| Truth be told: I can have a friend tell anyone that if I don't proofread carefully, I often get THERE and THEIR mixed up. |
Well don't. It is a basic error.
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Is that the excuse you come up with in your hagwon jobs?
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The parody letter was terrible, unfunny and not an accurate portrayl of me, if you knew anything about me - you know I am no royalist.
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I know - weren't you going to move there after four years of Korea in search for 'white women'
Which brings me onto another point. You can call my wife 'average' 'plain' and all the rest of it but I am average too so we are a good match. Two - one day, there might be a chance that you will be able to attain 'average' because you are nowhere near those giddy heights yet and - three - my wife speaks three languages, is a qualified public school teacher who had to pass an exam that would make your pea sized brain spin and she has been offered an interview with Cathay Pacific as a flight attendant - the dream job of many girls on this continent. She has done more in her 25 years on this spinning green and blue orb than you will ever do despite not being born with any of your first world advantages. Attack me all you want but like the coward that you are - you will keep making stupid barbs against her - pack it in boy - she hasn't done a thing to you.
And grow up, you lazy, whinging, immature little *beep* with severe entitlement issues! |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul, Korea
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| bcjinseoul wrote: |
No I haven't, its been a long time...and truth be told I'm sure plenty of us would like to have great paying jobs in our own contries; in regards to your response of what 5% of my blog topics are about. I pretty much was forced to quit that CELTA thing because I was "borderline" by the end of week 3, and was totally burned out. The fact is if I had an enjoyable job in my own country that paid a lot of money, I probably wouldn't go back to Korea. The Peninsula allows me to work on my writing, have lots of time and money on my hands, not deal with the hassle of a car and rent, work on a degree online...as supposed to making $8 an hour in retail or $10-12 an hour as an admin assistant and just scraping by. |
So you are in Korea even though you would rather be in America but you can't get a job. Well, fair play for being honest. And fair play for being honest about the easy life you can have in Korea. So - what the hell has hiking and playing pool have got to do with it? Nothing! Nada! Nicht!
As for your burnout with CELTA - you are an English teacher - you should be able to pass CELTA and not be 'burned out' by week 3. How on earth do you think you are going to pass a 3-4 year science degree! You are no more a scientist than me or most people on here - come on!
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| All the kids I knew in high school that got into all kinds of healthcare professions, engineering, accounting, computer science...they're making money, that's for sure. Most college kids these days have liberal arts degrees coming out of school and tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and not a lot to offer employers...which is SCARY, by the stretch of any imagination. |
Yes it is, but you either sit by the sidelines, complain and fight for the scraps with everyone else or you upgrade your qualifications and go for the better jobs with more pay. You have admitted yourself you are a Korea 'lifer' well make it work then! One year on a MA TESOL (and properly study for it - you are not stupid, you are just bone idle) and you can apply for well paying jobs all over the world! Your ambition of getting a 'college job in Seoul' is not unattainable. I do believe you are a good teacher. But no-one is going to hire you with what you've got now. So stop moaning about how unfair the world is (because you know it already) and do something about it.
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| Truth be told: I can have a friend tell anyone that if I don't proofread carefully, I often get THERE and THEIR mixed up. |
Well don't. It is a basic error.
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| Often, I'm typing so fast I just don't even think of it, 'cause I don't want to stop the flow of writing from my mind to my finger tips...but damn...that WRITE where RIGHT should have been blows my mind, so for the record, you got me THEIR buddy...or is it THERE? HA! |
Is that the excuse you come up with in your hagwon jobs?
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| Even now when I thumb through something like 'The Elements of Style' by E.B. White and William Strunk Jr and wrap my head around clean, professional writing methodology (ie, NOT the parody letter above^^) it amazes me as far as one can come, they can still sometimes make the same simple mistakes as anyone...always good to have another proofread for you. |
The parody letter was terrible, unfunny and not an accurate portrayl of me, if you knew anything about me - you know I am no royalist.
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| BTW: I'm not from or in Pittsburgh, Philly, or any part of PA. |
I know - weren't you going to move there after four years of Korea in search for 'white women'
Which brings me onto another point. You can call my wife 'average' 'plain' and all the rest of it but I am average too so we are a good match. Two - one day, there might be a chance that you will be able to attain 'average' because you are nowhere near those giddy heights yet and - three - my wife speaks three languages, is a qualified public school teacher who had to pass an exam that would make your pea sized brain spin and she has been offered an interview with Cathay Pacific as a flight attendant - the dream job of many girls on this continent. She has done more in her 25 years on this spinning green and blue orb than you will ever do despite not being born with any of your first world advantages. Attack me all you want but like the coward that you are - you will keep making stupid barbs against her - pack it in boy - she hasn't done a thing to you.
And grow up, you lazy, whinging, immature little *beep* with severe entitlement issues! |
Ho ho ho
He he he
Ha ha ha
...and I thought my jokes were bad! You like tricks, CH? I'm going to make this thread dissappear! Tada! And my writing skills weren't cheap...you should know, you paid for them.
Flash back 2-3 years ago. These so called Koreans wouldn't think of passing up any resume for a job out here...I mean, what happend, did your balls fall off?
Look, I know why you have these email sessions with 'qcat79'. I know why you're afraid to ever attempt to get a job in Korea again. The Recession.
The paper trail for the E-2 visa and public school phase outs...that's just the beginning. As for suggestions about getting an MA in TESOL....ESL has no jurisdiction, and newbies and others unqualified will always find a new country to saturate and squeal out every dime. I know squealers when I see one and THAT.....
What should we do? End the recession.
If we're good at something, never do it for free. Unless this situation is dealt with, poor British born Oliver Twist isn't going to be able to get a public school job out in the country!
Do I think I can come in here and walk away with all the attention? Yeah...
Here's my card. Call me when you decide you're ready to do business.
(RIP Heath Ledger) |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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He he he
Ha ha ha
...and I thought my jokes were bad! You like tricks, CH? I'm going to make this thread dissappear! Tada! And my writing skills weren't cheap...you should know, you paid for them.
Flash back 2-3 years ago. These so called Koreans wouldn't think of passing up any resume for a job out here...I mean, what happend, did your balls fall off?
Look, I know why you have these email sessions with 'qcat79'. I know why you're afraid to ever attempt to get a job in Korea again. The Recession.
The paper trail for the E-2 visa and public school phase outs...that's just the beginning. As for suggestions about getting an MA in TESOL....ESL has no jurisdiction, and newbies and others unqualified will always find a new country to saturate and squeal out every dime. I know squealers when I see one and THAT.....
What should we do? End the recession.
If we're good at something, never do it for free. Unless this situation is dealt with, poor British born Oliver Twist isn't going to be able to get a public school job out in the country!
Do I think I can come in here and walk away with all the attention? Yeah...
Here's my card. Call me when you decide you're ready to do business.
(RIP Heath Ledger) |
You made absolutley no sense there whatsoever.
You were a friend of mine once, I used to stick up for you when all your other mates were ripping the shite out of you. I quite liked you as a person even though you would make those really clumsy social faux pas time and time again.
So for this post, I am going back in time and I am going to speak to you like you are my friend.
Ben - the world, never mind Korea owes nobody nothing. Once upon a time, we got the jobs because we were the only people applying for them but it has all changed, even though I have a linguistics/TEFL degree, I can't get a job in Korea so I have moved on. As it turned out, me moving on was one of the best things I have ever done. 'Better the devil you know' stops us growing and experiencing new things and meeting new people. I will never go back to Korea, I like posting on here giving out words of wisdom and bits of advice and of course - reading FTUK's posts!
So the job situation in Korea has changed, you are finding it hard to get a job, so what do you do? You can improve yourself and make yourself more employable or you move somewhere else where your meager qualifications will get you work. I didn't make those rules up by the way, it is just how it is. It is allright to tell people that the current situation is unfair but it isn't going to change anything and you will be awhile on mum's couch before it does go back to normal - if it does at all - Taiwan was like Korea once and look what happened there.
The universe doesn't care about people who sqeual about life being 'unfair' without doing anything to improve their lot. No-one is going to change your life Ben - you need to do it yourself. Life isn't fair and even when you do find a gold and the bottom of your garden - it is up to you to pick up the spade and start digging.
Ben - and I say this in all sincerity - you have the skills and the talent to be what you want to be and to do what you want - you want to be a university lecturer in Seoul - then meet them halfway for God's sakes! That is all anyone will ask. Get the qualifications and no-one is going to shut the door on you. I promise. |
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bcjinseoul
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He he he
Ha ha ha
...and I thought my jokes were bad! You like tricks, CH? I'm going to make this thread dissappear! Tada! And my writing skills weren't cheap...you should know, you paid for them.
Flash back 2-3 years ago. These so called Koreans wouldn't think of passing up any resume for a job out here...I mean, what happend, did your balls fall off?
Look, I know why you have these email sessions with 'qcat79'. I know why you're afraid to ever attempt to get a job in Korea again. The Recession.
The paper trail for the E-2 visa and public school phase outs...that's just the beginning. As for suggestions about getting an MA in TESOL....ESL has no jurisdiction, and newbies and others unqualified will always find a new country to saturate and squeal out every dime. I know squealers when I see one and THAT.....
What should we do? End the recession.
If we're good at something, never do it for free. Unless this situation is dealt with, poor British born Oliver Twist isn't going to be able to get a public school job out in the country!
Do I think I can come in here and walk away with all the attention? Yeah...
Here's my card. Call me when you decide you're ready to do business.
(RIP Heath Ledger) |
You made absolutley no sense there whatsoever.
You were a friend of mine once, I used to stick up for you when all your other mates were ripping the shite out of you. I quite liked you as a person even though you would make those really clumsy social faux pas time and time again.
So for this post, I am going back in time and I am going to speak to you like you are my friend.
Ben - the world, never mind Korea owes nobody nothing. Once upon a time, we got the jobs because we were the only people applying for them but it has all changed, even though I have a linguistics/TEFL degree, I can't get a job in Korea so I have moved on. As it turned out, me moving on was one of the best things I have ever done. 'Better the devil you know' stops us growing and experiencing new things and meeting new people. I will never go back to Korea, I like posting on here giving out words of wisdom and bits of advice and of course - reading FTUK's posts!
So the job situation in Korea has changed, you are finding it hard to get a job, so what do you do? You can improve yourself and make yourself more employable or you move somewhere else where your meager qualifications will get you work. I didn't make those rules up by the way, it is just how it is. It is allright to tell people that the current situation is unfair but it isn't going to change anything and you will be awhile on mum's couch before it does go back to normal - if it does at all - Taiwan was like Korea once and look what happened there.
The universe doesn't care about people who sqeual about life being 'unfair' without doing anything to improve their lot. No-one is going to change your life Ben - you need to do it yourself. Life isn't fair and even when you do find a gold and the bottom of your garden - it is up to you to pick up the spade and start digging.
Ben - and I say this in all sincerity - you have the skills and the talent to be what you want to be and to do what you want - you want to be a university lecturer in Seoul - then meet them halfway for God's sakes! That is all anyone will ask. Get the qualifications and no-one is going to shut the door on you. I promise. |
I was imitating the Joker from the Dark Knight; near the beginning when he meets up with mobsters...obviously I changed a bunch of words, but let me get a hyperlink for you; it was a parody, buddy, I love the movies as you know....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QehZjjwb7-I |
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