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[superNET]

Here is a map and a bit of history for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms_of_Korea

Sorry it is wikipedia I will see if I can find other links. I did err in my last post as well but that was done from memory.

[northway]

[superNET]

Why do you think they were going to that part of the land in the first place? It was their homeland.

[young_clinton]

[Junior]

All koreans come from China originally anyway.

When Koreans migrate back there, they're simply returning home.

[itistime]

^^^^^
This

[northway]

[bucheon bum]

[pugwall]

northway is correct on this one. I wil go toe to toewith anyone on chinese history

[redaxe]

[earthquakez]

SuperNET has learned Korean history from the ultranationalistic-tinged sources/elements that tend to be discredited in countries that encourage multiplicity of research methodology and emphases, particulary revisionist histories. In Korea this ultranationalism is acceptable and promoted by academics who should know better and be more honest.

However, they either believe it or follow the path of least resistance, knowing that Koreans do not wish to accept responsibility for and accept many historical facts.

To name only two: a weak and backwards Korea that was ripe for being a pawn in the European-Japanese colonial rivalries and was the real reason for Korea's falling under Japanese colonisation; the murderous rivalry and power struggles between the left and right wing factions of Koreans after WW2 finished whereby Koreans on both sides willingly slaughtered each other including women and children in what was brutal, ongoing civil conflict.

Korea has few academics/writers who do this kind of research and publish these kinds of books. One female Korean academic recently pointed out that Koreans ran comfort women camps and did so independently. Did that become something to incorporate into mainstream Korean thought?

No. Like the history of Korean collaboration including Koreans who actively collaborated with the Japanese to assassinate the Empress Myeonseong and bring down the Joseon Dynasty, it will not become mainstream history taught in the education system until Koreans change their interpretation of history which often consists applying ultranationalist-nationalistic interpretations in retrospect.

I am interested in military history and have found again and again that websites and offline groups nearly always have to tell Koreans who join them to stop making issues ones of Korean nationalism and to try and be more objective. Not all but most of the Koreans use these opportunities for education to promote a worldview that is not accepted by non Koreans. It's a symptom of their problematic attitude towards history.

As for the 3 kingdoms blah blah blah - it's absurd for anybody (although we've come to accept this from Koreans because they do not question what they are taught mostly and their government engages in all sorts of faux history propagandising in their museums etc) to think that those different ethnic tribes' rivalries back then were related to what become Korea as we know it today.

When you look at primary sources, especially you find that as the majority of Koreans were toiling or outcast from a system that existed for a minority of elites, you understand that the notion of a 'Korean nation' came into being largely because of contact with the west.

Koreans did not start to define themselves as an independent 'nation' in terms of the mass of people until Korea was forced to confront the reality of 19th century western technology, western power and the Japanese who had learned from it and used it to promote their ascendancy in Asia.

The Ahn bloke who is pushed everywhere as some great Korean hero and who shot the Japanese politician Hirobumi Ito (who was a moderate and whose death did far more harm than good despite the propaganda in that 2009 Korean film which is just ultranationalism looking more acceptable) wanted Korea to join with Japan and China in some Asian empire.

He wrote to the Meiji Emperor saying so. Yet he assassinated the man who could have played a role in that. Other Koreans from around that period had aspirations of the world 'bending the knee to Korea and acknowledging her supremacy' as some poor deluded Korean nationalist wrote. I forget his name, thank goodness.

Koreans honestly don't understand that those areas of Russia and China were run by people who were not Korean as they think of themselves today. The 3 kingdoms' groups were made of of different ethnicities and as such engaged in tribal rivalries, power struggles and killings. There is no such thing as a 'Great Han People' who are Koreans.

They are not a 'race' - Koreans today are a mix of ethnicities and always have been. I understand their naivety in believing this because of the propaganda they are bombarded with but for a non Korean to come up with this is truly sad.

[jvalmer]

[ThingsComeAround]

im still dying to know where superNET studied Korean

[tottenhamtaipeinick]

wow who gives a damn! so about this Russia thing? that sounds more interesting!

[northway]