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Waygofet
Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| It's true and it is a legit way to go. |
Phew! Thanks, I misread your post earlier and thought you were saying that expunged records were included in background checks and I got a bit scared, I thought I may have to find another country to go to but I really want Korea.
Hopefully one day soon Americans will wise up and that wont even be an issue because it wont be something people are arrested for. Luckily I live in Portland Or. right now and the police have stated that that is there smallest priority, even below jaywalking.
(ps, just because I think it should be legal and may from time to time do it here doesnt mean I would ever do it overseas, unless you are in a country where its legal I think doing that overseas is extremely stupid and disrespectful to the country that is hosting you, I read stories on here about foreigners getting caught over there doing that and I just shake my head)
thanks again for your input |
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DJ Clae
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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On the advice of some posters here, I looked into the expungement option a while back, and learned it is not an option for DUI's in my state. So I am stuck with it. I'm so disappointed.
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| Sorry for your trouble's DJ Clae. But didn't you ever have some kind of alcohol/drug abuse lessons in your highschool that referenced the punishments for DUI? I find it hard to believe that you didn't know the punishment for receiving a DUI before you ever drove a car. Driver's ed course, health course, reading the new driver's manuel before taking your written test? These things were never mentioned during any of them?! Your state needs to wisen up and educate the teenagers there. Where I'm from, you have to take a mandatory drug and alcohol awareness class before even getting a license. |
Of course, but that was years ago and I was a different person in high school. I don't think I was ever aware of the true severity of the consequences. I understood the material and took the tests like the good student I was, but I was always a good kid that never got in any trouble, so it never really dawned on me as something that could happen to me. My generation was fed all of this empty "Just say no!" sentiment about drug and alcohol abuse that I took as gospel truth. But at the same time those topics seemed alien and never hit home because I've never touched an illegal drug in my life and I was raised in a suburban environment where drugs were pretty absent. By the time I got my DUI, my driver's ed was about ten years ago, and the finer details had been forgotten. In short, I didn't think it could happen to me, so I didn't really consider the long-term impact the consequences would have.
In my young career days (a few years before the DUI) I had some bad examples, like my much older office mate who had 2 DUI's and acted like they were no big deal. And going to office parties where the majority (all much older people) drove home drunk. The sad truth is that in the Midwest a lot of people drive home after having a few at the bar after work. The public transportation is bad and this behavior isn't talked about a lot, but unfortunately accepted. And the police have quotas to fill. So it adds up to a bad situation for someone like me who just followed the bad examples shown to him and wasn't very mindful about drinking and driving.
I know I made a mistake, and by pleading guilty and paying the price I took responsibility and swallowed my medicine. I'm now also close with people who have lost loved ones to drunk drivers, so I am not blind to their suffering either. However, even as I appeared in front of a judge, I was not aware of the doors it would close for me years into the future. I think we have a bad system of punishing without enough rehabilitation and chance to wipe the slate clean. We also have too many police in the States who have questionable incentives. We also have mass transit problems. By the way, I'm also now an advocate of marijuana legalization, and resent the lies we've been fed about the dangers of that drug. I'm not saying anyone should be allowed to get away with breaking the law, but as with all countries, there is a lot that could benefit from reform. |
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Platinumrose
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Formal request to stop helping criminals |
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| Epik_Teacher wrote: |
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WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUN OUR REPUTATION INTO THE GROUND?
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LOL! What a wanker! What reputation?!? In Korea, most ESL teachers are slightly above used car salesmen and taxi drivers. And rightly so, judging from the duds that are popping up these days! |
Exactly  . The only thing I`d disagree with is ESL`ers being slightly above any occupation. Western male ESL`ers are losers in their own countries and Koreans/Chinese/Japanese are well aware of it. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Formal request to stop helping criminals |
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| Platinumrose wrote: |
| Epik_Teacher wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUN OUR REPUTATION INTO THE GROUND?
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LOL! What a wanker! What reputation?!? In Korea, most ESL teachers are slightly above used car salesmen and taxi drivers. And rightly so, judging from the duds that are popping up these days! |
Exactly . The only thing I`d disagree with is ESL`ers being slightly above any occupation. Western male ESL`ers are losers in their own countries and Koreans/Chinese/Japanese are well aware of it. |
Are you including yourself in that broad statement? Or are you a western female ESL'er? Or perhaps a Korean ESL'er? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Formal request to stop helping criminals |
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| Platinumrose wrote: |
| Western male ESL`ers are losers in their own countries and Koreans/Chinese/Japanese are well aware of it. |
That just doesn't ring true. Have you been back home lately?
The strike rate of "losers" in the west is higher than the foreign community in Korea, trust me. I was back in UK for a few months, a lot of people have criminal records-even minor offences for dope. And a lot of people have never left their hometown or lived abroad, and have indecipherable accents and could not make themselves understood in the next province, let alone another country. A lot of people have a bad attitude, or antisocial behaviour.
etc etc.
Now if you're talking about the expat community in thailand or Cambodia then yes I might agree. But the fact is that expats in Korea, in sharp contrast to your average male in the west-
*have a university education:
*have no criminal record (if they did they wouldn't be allowed here)
* have no aids (if they did they wouldn't be allowed here)
* are healthy
*Are gaining exp living in a different culture-broadening their horizons
* Are often learning a second language
Thats a lot more than you can say for most westerners. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Formal request to stop helping criminals |
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| Junior wrote: |
Now if you're talking about the expat community in thailand or Cambodia then yes I might agree. But the fact is that expats in Korea, in sharp contrast to your average male in the west-
*have a university education:
*have no criminal record (if they did they wouldn't be allowed here)
* have no aids (if they did they wouldn't be allowed here)
* are healthy
*Are gaining exp living in a different culture-broadening their horizons
* Are often learning a second language
Thats a lot more than you can say for most westerners. |
By no means is this an attack on Korea, but that's more than you can say for a lot of people in Korea, Japan, and China. |
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