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alphalfa
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 Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: IMOE planned phase-out |
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Beginning next year 2011 the Incheon Office of Education will begin a phase-out of NETs at high schools. According to them, IF you are currently at a high school AND wish to CHANGE schools upon completion of your current contract, then you will NOT BE ABLE TO change to a different high school ~ instead, the IMOE will re-direct you to teach either in Incheon area elementary schools or middle schools. IF you are currently at a high school AND wish to stay there, then it's possible for you to continue -provided the school wishes to have you stay. It will become inevitable at some point that all current NETs at area high schools will no longer be able to work at high schools in the [near] future.
The high school where I currently work has decided they do not want a NET for next year.The number one reason I was told is the number of English classes will be reduced to 3 a week - all taught by the KET- from the current 5 a week - 4 taught by the KET and 1 taught by the NET for first and second graders[mostly]. This planned reduction is verified in a notice issued by the IMOE to area schools.
Is there any truth to the idea often heard that schools which have had a succession of NETs for five years will not be granted an NET for the sixth year? This is the current situation with the school I am at.
An additional item of note for NETs working in Incheon area schools:
As of Aug/Sept of this year the IMOE has applied a security deposit for the first two months to contracts - for the first month a total of 250,000won will be taken from your contract followed by an additional amount of 250,000won from your second month. It will be returned to you at the completion of the year contract. This recent addenum to the work contracts will apply to all NETs who wish to renew their contracts in 2011, regardless of how long you've been working in area schools. It already applies to newbies who have come since Aug/Sept of this year.
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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makes sense, im being let go from my high school..they told me ages ago though, very nice about it. The local BOE isnt giving any money for a NT in the high schools. Im guessing its they feel we arent necessary for the SooNeung or we are disturbing the old boys club of mountain hiking, maxim drinking, napping that is HS teachering. 
I do a bit of that too...
but of course, they could magically change their minds in 2 months when the parents bitch about it..maybe |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| this doesn't quite jive with the govt's pledge to increase the hours of weekly instruction in English by an hour or 2 a week and its pledge to hire another several thousand English speaking Korean teachers to teach exclusively in English. |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| this doesn't quite jive with the govt's pledge to increase the hours of weekly instruction in English by an hour or 2 a week and its pledge to hire another several thousand English speaking Korean teachers to teach exclusively in English. |
When does any politician keep all of their promises and pledges?
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| we are disturbing the old boys club of mountain hiking, maxim drinking, napping that is HS teachering. |
You are certainly wrong about this as none of my Korean co-workers in any school did this to a point where it interfered with their responsibilities and teaching.
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| Beginning next year 2011 the Incheon Office of Education will begin a phase-out of NETs at high schools. |
Over the years I have seen the quality of English ability rise in the students. It is about time the Korean government trusted their own people to do the job. They can do it. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| superNET wrote: |
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| this doesn't quite jive with the govt's pledge to increase the hours of weekly instruction in English by an hour or 2 a week and its pledge to hire another several thousand English speaking Korean teachers to teach exclusively in English. |
When does any politician keep all of their promises and pledges?
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| we are disturbing the old boys club of mountain hiking, maxim drinking, napping that is HS teachering. |
You are certainly wrong about this as none of my Korean co-workers in any school did this to a point where it interfered with their responsibilities and teaching.
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| Beginning next year 2011 the Incheon Office of Education will begin a phase-out of NETs at high schools. |
Over the years I have seen the quality of English ability rise in the students. It is about time the Korean government trusted their own people to do the job. They can do it. |
the pledges are public enough that it would be highly embarrassing to cut back when publicly pledging to augment.
re everything else, they're certainly entitled to do whatever they want. Nobody is entitled to a job an an English teacher here. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Over the years I have seen the quality of English ability rise in the students. It is about time the Korean government trusted their own people to do the job. They can do it. |
Bollocks. The Koreans can't teach as well as NETs in many cases.
Shedding NT's leaves the Korean English language system a lot poorer.
The main reasons they're slowly getting rid of us from public schools are:
a) Racist xenephobia! Korean teachers hated their foreign counterparts and have done all they could to get rid of them. The advice, opinions and requests of foreign teachers from the most basic level up have been ignored from day 1. Hardly a recipe for success.
b) Korean teachers failed to properly assist the foreign teachers. In many cases they either shirked their supporting role or deliberately sabotaged the foreigner to try and make themselves look better.
c) Koreans are generally uncomfortable with cultural exchange. They have no interest in working alongside foreigners. Be it in korea or the US.
So the great Public school engrishee experiment has failed. boo hoo. thats what happens when you refuse to genuinely listen to the people you are employing.
Self fulfilling prophecy...  |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Youre not going to sway supernet. He has a terminal case of stockholm syndrome. |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
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| Over the years I have seen the quality of English ability rise in the students. It is about time the Korean government trusted their own people to do the job. They can do it. |
The main reasons they're slowly getting rid of us from public schools are:
a) Racist xenephobia! Korean teachers hated their foreign counterparts and have done all they could to get rid of them. The advice, opinions and requests of foreign teachers from the most basic level up have been ignored from day 1. Hardly a recipe for success.
b) Korean teachers failed to properly assist the foreign teachers. In many cases they either shirked their supporting role or deliberately sabotaged the foreigner to try and make themselves look better.
c) Koreans are generally uncomfortable with cultural exchange. They have no interest in working alongside foreigners. Be it in korea or the US. |
Talk about flaming, all three reasons are very wrong and come from a very biased poster.
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Bollocks. The Koreans can't teach as well as NETs in many cases.
Shedding NT's leaves the Korean English language system a lot poorer.
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This is just absurd. Getting rid of NTs is what is needed in the Korean classroom. Then there won't be anymore stupid lessons on Feminism when ENGLISH is to be TAUGHT.
Korean teachers are more than capable of doing the job. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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I find it interesting that the posters on here who are the most anti-Korean everything are also the ones who always complain about getting along with coworkers.
Now maybe, THAT is a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Out of the 6 coteachers I've had, one had good English, one had almost good English, two were fair at best, and two were afraid to talk, teaching their part of the class almost entirely in Korean.
If IMOE wants to teach bad English, it's their choice, though. Let them phase everyone out, then two years later frantically scramble for foreign teachers. It's happened in the past, and it'll happen again, when the test scores drop.
Apparently SuperNET has only had great coteachers. Good on him for lucking out. He's also never witnessed abuse�only love pats. What a lovely life it must be with blinders and ear plugs... |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:45 am Post subject: |
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This is just absurd. Getting rid of NTs is what is needed in the Korean classroom. Then there won't be anymore stupid lessons on Feminism when ENGLISH is to be TAUGHT.
Korean teachers are more than capable of doing the job. |
Not disagreeing with anyone here, but I've yet to see a public school KET who can actually speak English worth a damn with me, after meeting dozens. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| I know my co teachers don't like reading to the students in English because they are afraid of making mistakes. I actually think my students learn more before and after class when I talk to them freely about whatever. That casual conversation can't be replicated by a non native teacher, easily. Luckily, I am funded directly by the students at my after school job, so I don't have to worry about losing my gig. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| supernet is becoming one of my favorite posters. Classic stuff there. |
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balzor
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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SMOE will phase out in 2012 or so I heard today.
Last edited by balzor on Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:14 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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balzor
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
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This is just absurd. Getting rid of NTs is what is needed in the Korean classroom. Then there won't be anymore stupid lessons on Feminism when ENGLISH is to be TAUGHT.
Korean teachers are more than capable of doing the job. |
Not disagreeing with anyone here, but I've yet to see a public school KET who can actually speak English worth a damn with me, after meeting dozens. |
There is 1 at my school, but she is going for her PHD so the are losing her anyway |
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