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mises
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
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Oh man, I love this thread, because I had to give up gluten and dairy two years ago, because it was making my health and life unsustainable, and destroying my brain. Gluten is a neuro-toxin, and both dairy and gluten have neuro-active peptides which can cause anxiety, as well as asthma and serious allergic reactions. I had to figure this out on my own, because the allopathic medical profession doesn't recognize food allergies, because I guess they can't treat it.
Anyway, I am gluten and casein free, and it has made a TREMENDOUS difference in my life. I can't eat butter, but cook with olive or grapeseed oil (what is the problem with seed oils?).
I moderate my red meat (trying to work to 2x per month), eat fish and chicken, and about 50% raw veggies and fruits. I have a hard time giving up wine, and still eat super dark chocolate a few times a week, as it is my only treat. I also drink coffee, maybe 2-3 times a week.
Obviously not perfect, but working on it. But, I don't want to give up everything, as I enjoy eating. But, I really need to work on the sugar, me thinks.
Oh yeah, started really long walks, but I feel I should be working out a lot more. The key is to lower inflammation and increase oxygen, I think. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Re: gluten. I'm in total agreement. For about a decade I took pump-inhibitors for gut rot. A dr who I went to refill the script suggested I avoid wheat. I did, and the gut rot went away. I've been avoiding gluten for a few years now. A month back I went to Subway for a foot long sub, my first bread in a while. My mind fogged up almost immediately. It feels like a haze over the mind. Very strange. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| calicoe wrote: |
| I have a hard time giving up wine |
Why try? Those who have 1-2 alcoholic drinks a day have less heart attacks and live longer than even abstainers (according to the vast majority of research ever conducted), not to mention the specific health benefits of wine, especially red wine. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Re: gluten. I'm in total agreement. For about a decade I took pump-inhibitors for gut rot. A dr who I went to refill the script suggested I avoid wheat. I did, and the gut rot went away. I've been avoiding gluten for a few years now. A month back I went to Subway for a foot long sub, my first bread in a while. My mind fogged up almost immediately. It feels like a haze over the mind. Very strange. |
Yeah, I know what you mean, it's nasty stuff. Gluten was pushing me into symptoms resembling an early Alzheimer's, and affected all of my internal organs as it worked its way through my body and cells, for about 10 days to 2 weeks. I'm so glad I'm off of it, but I have to be super vigilant here in gluten and wheat land. Just about EVERYTHING here has wheat or gluten in it.
Louis VI: Yeah, I am now sticking to good red wine. I slowly had to give up beer (that felt like leaving a lover or something - it was damn hard!), so I am now a moderate drinker of red wine. I finally figured out that the sulfites in white wine were giving me an allergic reaction, so that's out the door now as well. As long as I can still have a bottle of red, everything is still alright in the world. |
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mises
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/007760.html
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-carbs-20101220,0,5464425.story
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A reversal on carbs
Fat was once the devil. Now more nutritionists are pointing accusingly at sugar and refined grains.
"Fat is not the problem," says Dr. Walter Willett, chairman of the department of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health. "If Americans could eliminate sugary beverages, potatoes, white bread, pasta, white rice and sugary snacks, we would wipe out almost all the problems we have with weight and diabetes and other metabolic diseases."
It's a confusing message. For years we've been fed the line that eating fat would make us fat and lead to chronic illnesses. "Dietary fat used to be public enemy No. 1," says Dr. Edward Saltzman, associate professor of nutrition and medicine at Tufts University. "Now a growing and convincing body of science is pointing the finger at carbs, especially those containing refined flour and sugar." |
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stilicho25
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| From personal exp i found it pretty difficult to stay on the no carbs diet. I got fuzzy headed and had a real hard time studying or dealing with people at work. I also ate so much meat to make up for the full fealing that carbs give you that I did not end up losing much before i fell off the wagon. |
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Rotten Borough
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| stilicho25 wrote: |
| From personal exp i found it pretty difficult to stay on the no carbs diet. I got fuzzy headed and had a real hard time studying or dealing with people at work. I also ate so much meat to make up for the full fealing that carbs give you that I did not end up losing much before i fell off the wagon. |
It's because you treated it like a "diet". The symptoms you experienced can be likened to an alcoholic going off booze. There is some pain at first, the long run effect is positive. It is much easier to slowly cut back, than to eliminate in one day. I'm not surprised you encountered problems.
I eat way less after cutting (not eliminating) carbs. I simply need less food. And don't get ravenously hungry like I did as a teenager and young adult.
Personal anecdote: I had toast with my girlfriend on Sunday lunchtime. By 3PM I was ravenously hungry. Much hungrier than if I had eaten nothing at all! |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Rotten Borough wrote: |
Personal anecdote: I had toast with my girlfriend on Sunday lunchtime. By 3PM I was ravenously hungry. Much hungrier than if I had eaten nothing at all! |
Perhaps it was because the toast kick-started your metabolism.
The same happens with me if I have a quick coffee and a cookie!
Todays breakfast was an egg with 2 small bits of Korean bacon sprinkled with herbs and cheese. Midway to lunchtime and feels good. |
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nobbyken
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I subscribe to this blog for pretty sound advice. |
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mises
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| stilicho25 wrote: |
| From personal exp i found it pretty difficult to stay on the no carbs diet. I got fuzzy headed and had a real hard time studying or dealing with people at work. I also ate so much meat to make up for the full fealing that carbs give you that I did not end up losing much before i fell off the wagon. |
I'm inferring here, but my guess is that you were getting a disproportionate number of calories from protein, which is not what you want to do.
Let's say a normal person's calories were split up among carbs, protein, and fat in a 50%/30%/20% ratio. You can ease yourself into the low carb lifestyle by switching your fat and carb percentages around so that half your daily calories come from fat and only 20% come from carbs, leaving your protein intake the same.
(These numbers are just and arbitrary example.)
Here's the thing, when you get the lion's share of your calories from healthy sources of fat, you will NOT feel as if you are starving yourself. In fact, you probably won't get as aggressively hungry as when you were on a carb-based diet.
And, speaking from personal experience as someone who had tremendous blood-sugar related mood swings, you will not go through that emotional roller-coaster when you are feeling hungry. |
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methdxman
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Who cares what we eat exactly? We're not professional ironmen or athletes here.
Just try to eat a sorta balanced meal every time you eat. And just eat LESS. Stop stressing over what you're eating. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| mises wrote: |
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/man-who-thinks-everything-dr-oz-says-wrong-pt-1
Gary Taubes On The Dr. Oz Show. An interesting discussion. |
The thing is, neither of them are actually wrong. Most likely they even agree with each others, but it sells more books if they are pretending it's the old teaching against the new.
I don't find much contradiction between low carb and high carb scientists as long as they know what they are talking about. It's just two different approaches and for some a low carb diet might be the only way to lose their weight while for others a high carb diet might work just fine. If I take myself as an example, I don't really feel hunger much or have low blood sugar problems, but I sometimes gain some weight simply because I eat too much as a past time activity. Therefore a low carb diet wont make much sense, while I believe it's easier for me to get the right nutritions (vitamins, fibre and so on) in a high carb diet. For someone who feels a lot of hunger (or myself as I am getting older perhaps), a low carb diet might help solve that problem efficiently. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| methdxman wrote: |
Who cares what we eat exactly? We're not professional ironmen or athletes here.
Just try to eat a sorta balanced meal every time you eat. And just eat LESS. Stop stressing over what you're eating. |
very good point about reducing stress.
However, I would add to that:
...the path to good health is eternal vigilance.
The more people learn about their own personal physical responses to the food they eat...the sooner they will be able to relax knowing they have at least found some control over the body they inhabit.
Not an easy task...but not sure I would leave it only to professional ironmen or athletes...we all have the same health issues at stake. |
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