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Quitting public school early
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superNET wrote:

You just are too limited in your thinking and because it is not done your way, you think it is wrong or there is a problem. Well there are always going to be problems and for Korea it starts with Westerners.


I'm enjoying the spectacle of your posts descending into sadder and sadder farce. Laughing Yes, let's take away 'Westerner' influence in Korea and see what the result would have been (this list is not conclusive):

No technology - no cars, trains, bicycles, motorbikes, planes etc. No modern army, weapons, jets, etc. No real plumbing, no toilets. No electricity, no gas. No radios, tvs, computers, internet, ipods etc. No apartment buildings, no office buildings.

No modern hospitals, medical technology, dentistry, prescription medication that really works, medical operations in the real sense with sophisticated instruments. No robotics (just think, there wouldn't be those English speaking robots to replace us had not Koreans received western technology!), satellites, space investigation in the real sense, not just star mapping as in astronomy.

No notion of universal education. Just Confucian schools for the children of the elites and other privileged elements. No education for females apart from limited education for the elite females.

No piano, ballet, jazz, hiphop, modern dance, classical music education. No hagwons for learning just about everything apart from Confucian classics, Confucian philosophy, Chinese and old forms of Mathematical education.

No introduction to the rest of the world. That's why foreigners who were kept prisoner were almost flogged to death when they tried to escape during the Hermit Kingdom centuries because the rulers of Korea didn't want the outside world knowing about them.

No reform of cruel and public Korean punishments dating back hundreds and hundreds of years ago. No prison reform.

No abolition of Korean enslavement of other Koreans. No abolition of Korea's outcast system, as cruel as any India invented. No ending of the life of misery of the Paekchong forced to identify themselves in their clothing and demeaning ceremonies.

No change in the life expectancy because of the introduction of alternatives to rice and a few vegetables. No kimchi or other food preserved by red pepper because of course it came from the west. No beer or the wide range of other beverages. Just soju and a number of teas.

No liberal democratic institutions. No parliament. No voting rights for all Koreans.

Yes, you can just see how Korea's problems started with 'Westerner' influence. Laughing


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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superNET wrote:
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Everyone should have the choice and the opportunity to go to university. Your fate in life shouldnt be decided by standardized test scores when youre 15 years old and just finishing middle school.


As usual you are wrong and ignore the fact that not everyone is suited for univeristy. Some people like working with their hands and do not need a university degree.

For some people, their lives are determined by the time they reach 8. Who are you that you think you get to decide who gets to go where and what job they can or cannot do?

Your posts show such an ignorance about people, their interests and life in general, and so little about Korea as in this country every student can go to university if they want to. it is their choice to stick it out or not.


If this was the case in the States I would never have had a chance to do anything. I grew up with 2 drug addicted parents and was tested for special education classes while in elementary and middle school. As I got older and matured my chances where made by me and not a standardized test. By your thought I am the bottom of the barrel and would never deserve a chance to prosper. I got my degree and became a special ed teacher to help student overcome ignorance like your's. I'm in Korea to pay off student loans so my childern will have a better life to help those less fortunate and help them learn that success isn't dependant on what you're given but what you work for. People like you should be beaten with a cane pole.
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
If your letter of release is dated for the last day in your contract and your new contract starts the next day, you can transfer to a new employer and extend for another year if you go to immi a week or two before the contract ends with the necessary paperwork. 90 000won total, 15 minutes at immi and you dont have to leave korea or apply for a new visa. Seamless transition. I've done it twice.


Do you know if it is ok to have your LOR & ARC dated Feb 28th (which is last day of the job) when your new job starts March 1st? I ask because I read somewhere else that there should be a few days extra on your ARC - past the last day of your job.

Cheers.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

***EDIT. Sorry misread your post. Youre fine. Just go to immi to make the transfer a week or two before your original job ends. Transfer and extend for another year and youre done. ****


The latest rule is the you can have up to two weeks between, but you have to make the switch at immi before the date on your LOR. I never really trusted that because of immi inconsistencies in the past so I always made it consecutive days with the LOR and the new contract. No need to worry that way.

If your worried about it, just get your new employer to date the contact consecutive with the LOR date - knowing that you wont start work right away. The contract will be a little more than one year so that it gives you one year WORKING, but it covers your butt. You may need to go to immi and extend near the end of the contract to get the whole year of work, but it's better than having your new job KO'd by an immi agent that doesnt know the rules regarding LOR's and transfers.

Dial 1345 for immi info to clarify.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkerie wrote:
OculisOrbis wrote:
If your letter of release is dated for the last day in your contract and your new contract starts the next day, you can transfer to a new employer and extend for another year if you go to immi a week or two before the contract ends with the necessary paperwork. 90 000won total, 15 minutes at immi and you dont have to leave korea or apply for a new visa. Seamless transition. I've done it twice.


Do you know if it is ok to have your LOR & ARC dated Feb 28th (which is last day of the job) when your new job starts March 1st? I ask because I read somewhere else that there should be a few days extra on your ARC - past the last day of your job.

Cheers.


Since February has 28 days in 2011 then starting your new job on March 1st is not only ok, but it's also the ideal situation. The new job starts the day after the current one ends.

Try to get the LOR by the beginning of February. That way you and your next employer have plenty of time to get things in order. Submit your application for a transfer 2 weeks before your current job ends. You'll have to submit your ARC as well. Immi will put an amendment on the back to state your next exit date (based on the finish date in your new contract). They'll also update your address if you're changing the address where you live.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Quitting public school early Reply with quote

jimmyjnc wrote:
I've put in my one months notice and I'll be leaving my contract at the 6 month mark so I'm free of any financial obligations to the BMCOE. I gave a face saving excuse to why I'm quitting and I'm going to hang out with the principal this Sunday to make sure that the harmony is positive upon departure (I'm assuming his weight matters in how I'll be judged officially.) I'm looking to turn around and start working for my old Hagwon In Jan., which was a much better job. My face saving excuse is that I need to prepare for grad school.

I've checked out the immigration website and they state that with E-2 visas one can change the place of work while still retaining the duration of the visa. They also outline the procedure for doing so (although they don't supply the documents, or at least I couldn't find them.) What I'm concerned about is, if BMCOE doesn't want to allow the change of the workplace. Also what I'm concerned about is that my face saver contradicts the reality that I'd like to work in Korea again (and very quickly.) Could BMCOE notify immigration to cancel the visa AND to give me some sort of bad reputation status therefore affecting the ability of me to get a new visa. Looking for some advice about how to approach this situation.


You can change visas with your school's permission. Otherwise you have to go back home to change it. Good luck leaving a positive enough impression to get it done. Your hogwan may even have to bribe the principal.
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jimmyjnc



Joined: 16 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update-Got the LOR and transfer without having to go back home. It can be done. Don't stay in public school if you hate it.
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