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GEPIK teachers - teaching your coworkers this winter
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:


Yes.

Although- my school recently got a memo concerning a suicide. Naturally, my HT thought I might flip and I had to assure her public school teaching is nothing worth dying for Cool


True, I wouldn't die FOR my school. Because of it, that's another story... Wink Just had to get that in there.

I haven't gotten this memo, but in OCTOBER, I told my co worker I wanted to take the whole month of January off to do the CELTA course. I told her I'd use my own vacation days and that I would do a winter camp the first week of February. She told me that that was impossible, that we had to do the winter camp in January and that it had already been scheduled and there was no way around it.

Last week, I asked when the winter camp was. Response? "Oh, we haven't even asked the kids if they want to do it yet. We might not have a winter camp."

FML
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a big push now to phase out technical high schools. Every education office is doing it. Tech schools need to submit applications to shift over to special purpose schools. The ones that don't make the cut are switched to very low level academic high schools.

If your teaching English for all those subjects. It sounds like your school wants to or is already planning to switch. I haven't heard of any other school's that are changing requiring FTs to train the teachers. Including mine. We're on a 3 year time table until the first class for the new program comes in. If the order came from your MOE, it could be an experiment

And no it doesn't qualify as bonus pay. Check your contract. Most likely it'll say you have to do camp. Teacher training is included in your work responsibilities. As long as your not over your 22 hours, and or there aren't any after school classes you get the same pay. If you didn't have to do camps before you lucked out.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
ThingsComeAround wrote:


Yes.

Although- my school recently got a memo concerning a suicide. Naturally, my HT thought I might flip and I had to assure her public school teaching is nothing worth dying for Cool


True, I wouldn't die FOR my school. Because of it, that's another story... Wink Just had to get that in there.

I haven't gotten this memo, but in OCTOBER, I told my co worker I wanted to take the whole month of January off to do the CELTA course. I told her I'd use my own vacation days and that I would do a winter camp the first week of February. She told me that that was impossible, that we had to do the winter camp in January and that it had already been scheduled and there was no way around it.

Last week, I asked when the winter camp was. Response? "Oh, we haven't even asked the kids if they want to do it yet. We might not have a winter camp."

FML


There may be a CELTA course starting in March on Saturdays (they didn't respond to my email yet- but the suggestion is on the website)

http://www.britishcouncil.org/korea-teacher-development-courses-celta.htm
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:

There may be a CELTA course starting in March on Saturdays (they didn't respond to my email yet- but the suggestion is on the website)

http://www.britishcouncil.org/korea-teacher-development-courses-celta.htm


It actually is kind of a blessing in disguise. The cost for the BC is what, 2.4, 2.5 mil won. You can do the CELTA in Vietnam for 1500 USD, or Thailand for 1600. I'm looking to get a couple of friends together and go as a group to one of those places, get an apt. for a month, save a few hundred bucks when all is said and done and get out of Korea for a nice break. Of course, the nice thing would have been to do it when the weather here is crap (like, uh, NOW) but hey, live and learn.
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Gary-Korea



Joined: 23 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at a High School with another NET. We were asked last winter to teach our coworkers a couple of hours a day for a week each. My mate did the first week and about 3 teachers turned up on the Monday. After that no one turned up for the rest of the week. The week after it was my turn. I waited in the class for the first 10 minutes on the Monday and no one showed. I knocked it on the head after that.

The Korean Principals and Education Board honchos of this world need to realise that learning English really isn't a priority for people when they have young families they have hardly seen for an entire semester!
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geldedgoat



Joined: 05 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: My coteacher now seems unsure whether this ingenious plan originated with MoE or the principal. Also, the class would be mandatory for all teachers under the age of 30 (roughly ten teachers). My coteacher will have absolutely nothing to do with the class. (What do I do if the students start fighting each other?!)

Still no word on whether or not this will conflict with my thrice-approved two-week trip to the Philippines which has already been fully paid for.

All details will apparently be decided by Monday, so we'll see.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you teaching teachers, they will show up for the first week. After that you'll be lucky if 3 of them show up.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
If you teaching teachers, they will show up for the first week. After that you'll be lucky if 3 of them show up.


True.
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itistime



Joined: 23 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

" the principal wants to know whether or not other GEPIK teachers are having to do something similar. Yes, I was specifically asked to ask other teachers if they're being tasked with running a camp for their fellow teachers."

Don't sell the other NETs out.
This is being asked so the princ can contact the other schools princes and round you all up to teach the whole area/county/regions' teachers.

Good answer: "Yes, I know some that are doing with their schools."

No more info required

I know that this is happening in some places.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itistime wrote:
" the principal wants to know whether or not other GEPIK teachers are having to do something similar. Yes, I was specifically asked to ask other teachers if they're being tasked with running a camp for their fellow teachers."

Don't sell the other NETs out.
This is being asked so the princ can contact the other schools princes and round you all up to teach the whole area/county/regions' teachers.

Good answer: "Yes, I know some that are doing with their schools."

No more info required

I know that this is happening in some places.


You mean they're trying to set up regional camps if some schools don't have foreign teachers or enough students? Those are bad news. You do all kinds of work and half of the other "teachers" either don't show up or show up and refuse to help. Seen it, done it, hated it.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give them homework Wink
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a great way to get the other Korean teachers to hate their foriegn teacher. So many of them plan little excersions to Thailand and China during the break. If the POE actually get away with this boneheaded plan your school co-workers will hate you. They'll take it out on you by offering zero support when you face disciplinary problems with your students. You need to contact the POE and inform them of this
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
ThingsComeAround wrote:

There may be a CELTA course starting in March on Saturdays (they didn't respond to my email yet- but the suggestion is on the website)

http://www.britishcouncil.org/korea-teacher-development-courses-celta.htm


It actually is kind of a blessing in disguise. The cost for the BC is what, 2.4, 2.5 mil won. You can do the CELTA in Vietnam for 1500 USD, or Thailand for 1600. I'm looking to get a couple of friends together and go as a group to one of those places, get an apt. for a month, save a few hundred bucks when all is said and done and get out of Korea for a nice break. Of course, the nice thing would have been to do it when the weather here is crap (like, uh, NOW) but hey, live and learn.


Definitely do the CELTA in Vietnam or Thailand. As I understand it, in both countries it's run at International House schools. A great benefit of doing the CELTA with IH is that when you're finished, you can ask them about getting a job with an IH school. All IH schools have a list of other IHs that are hiring in the near future. They love to hire employees or graduates of other IHs. So... if you're planning on working somewhere other than Korea, it can help out a lot in setting up something in advance.
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: GEPIK teachers - teaching your coworkers this winter Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
My coteacher just informed me that our principal was ordered by the MoE to run a short winter camp for all of the teachers in our school... a camp run by me, the lone NET, to teach the math, art, science, history, Japanese, computer, etc teachers English. Why these technical high school teachers require an English camp is beyond me, but I know I'm obligated and see no reason to argue against it.

What's strange is that my coteacher told me that the principal wants to know whether or not other GEPIK teachers are having to do something similar. Yes, I was specifically asked to ask other teachers if they're being tasked with running a camp for their fellow teachers. Confused

So... Have any other GEPIK teachers been told to prepare a camp like this for non-English teachers working in the same school? (I'm in Gwangmyeong, if you're curious.)

Bonus: Would this qualify as overtime pay? My coteacher made a point of telling me the principal likes the idea more because it doesn't push me out of my vacation days, so I wouldn't require extra reimbursement. Is this true? I was under the assumption that summer and winter camps were extra. This is my first camp (been at this school two years and have enjoyed the extra vacation time tons), so I've never bothered looking into the camps.


As for overtime pay it depends on the school. Some will pay overtime and others won't. Sounds like they want to see if you know what other teachers are doing. I would find out if I were you. You don't want to send them the message that they can take advantage of your ignorance. Even if you don't know, it may be best to say that others are not having camps.
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