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Is mid-twenties "old"?
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I feel 6 (watching cartoons with my little bro or playing tag with my students,) sometimes I feel 28 (dolling up and going out for a night on the town with my beloved,) and sometimes I feel 87 (spending a quiet evening in with a good book, some knitting, a pot of soup on the stove, and some warm jammies).

Enjoy life at whatever age you are. You'll think back to how silly you were, feeling old at 20-something, in a few decades.
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swashbuckler



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I turned 30 this year and still get pu$$y like its going out of style..
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea im 29 and I just cant get into the club scene anymore. Ever since i turned about 27, my outlook on what is fun and what is not changed dramatically. I welcomed it because i partied enough for two lifetimes when i was in the teens and early 20's, and could use a little bit of relaxation..
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BaldTeacher



Joined: 02 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I'm the same age as you.

What's better, being a chump working a boring middle-management job who's married to some dumpy warpig who doesn't even put out anymore, or doing what you want on your own terms?

Forget those people who are pressuring you into marriage. Marriage is an outdated institution designd to castrate you. Teaching ESL in Korea is not a loser job if you can find a good job in a good location that hooks you up with a sweet apartment. Get a good circle of friends going and you have it made, much more than your average sucker back home.

The good thing about being a man is that as long as you hold yourself together and don't become a fat beta, you become more and more attractive to women.

I know people who are in their mid thirties who are in their first year of teaching in Korea. I also know people who were honor students who became burnouts. There are some people now who are just scraping by but in 20 years, they will be movers and shakers. This isn't a race.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BaldTeacher wrote:
OP, I'm the same age as you.

What's better, being a chump working a boring middle-management job who's married to some dumpy warpig who doesn't even put out anymore, or doing what you want on your own terms?

Forget those people who are pressuring you into marriage. Marriage is an outdated institution designd to castrate you. Teaching ESL in Korea is not a loser job if you can find a good job in a good location that hooks you up with a sweet apartment. Get a good circle of friends going and you have it made, much more than your average sucker back home.

The good thing about being a man is that as long as you hold yourself together and don't become a fat beta, you become more and more attractive to women.

I know people who are in their mid thirties who are in their first year of teaching in Korea. I also know people who were honor students who became burnouts. There are some people now who are just scraping by but in 20 years, they will be movers and shakers. This isn't a race.


I agree with everything here, with the exception of marriage. If you find someone you can't keep your clothes on around, and you feel the same way 5-10 years in, THEN you should marry them. I was with my man for 7 years before we took the leap, and we still have trouble making it to the bedroom from the doorway.
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BaldTeacher



Joined: 02 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with everything here, with the exception of marriage. If you find someone you can't keep your clothes on around, and you feel the same way 5-10 years in, THEN you should marry them. I was with my man for 7 years before we took the leap, and we still have trouble making it to the bedroom from the doorway.


In your case then, I think that marriage doesn't sound like such a stupid idea, if you still feel passion like that after a long time. However, far too many people let themselves get pressured into marriage, only for it to bite them in the ass hard a few years down the line.
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swashbuckler



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with everything here, with the exception of marriage. If you find someone you can't keep your clothes on around, and you feel the same way 5-10 years in, THEN you should marry them. I was with my man for 7 years before we took the leap, and we still have trouble making it to the bedroom from the doorway.


I get more pu$$y than Elvis, Mozart, and Dicaprio put together..
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Baldteacher:
Indeed. I don't believe anyone should be pressured into marriage unless their family is going to get a few dozen camels, at least!

@Swashbuckler:
Kudos. Enjoy yourself, and just remember to keep it safe.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
I'm 28 and the girls I'm seeing right now are 19 and 20. I use being old to benefit myself and it is working like a charm, literally.


you are Ajossi.
trust me young Korean girls are not into old guys...

unless of course you are 28 but you are telling the girls you are 23 LOL
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BaldTeacher



Joined: 02 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 26 and I get 19 and 20 year olds. I told one of them I was 30 just to gauge where I'd be at that point. It wasn't an issue.

Young girls love older guys who they think are cool.
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some young girls are really picky about age though. my kyopo friend, 27, who literally looks like he's 21 is a very attractive, fashionable guy. he went to a club in LA and was talking to a girl who was 21. she asked him how old he was and he said 27, she then said "ewww, you're too old."

could be a cultural thing though. i don't think k girls care about age as much as an american girl would.
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: The Internet

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread like this not too recently, but I'll reiterate my limited, experience.

I turned 29, 30, and 31 in Korea. My 30's have, so far, been the best years of my life. I'm much more confident, more fiscally responsible, healthier, and frankly I find I have more energy to do the things that are important to me, such as travel, learn new things, tackle odd business ventures, or really focus on some creative writing. I have less energy to waste time going to bars and clubs and staying up until 6am unless it's a special occasion, like New Years. Hangovers hurt more, food sometimes affects my digestive system more, and I have a few crows feet around my eyes when I smile.

I also play a ton of video games, have an Xbox, a PS3, a pathetic herb garden, and only wear a suit or a tie for formal occasions. Other than that I'm a jeans and a zip up hoody kind of guy. I feel younger than I ever have, I smile so much my cheeks sometimes hurt, and I try to surround myself with interesting and funny friends regardless of their age.

It also helps that my girlfriend of 3 years is almost exactly the same. Our apartment is a mix of everything from travel photos to Hello Kitty and Doreman to Clive Barker Horror figurines and random World of Warcraft schwag we've bought off PC bangs. If I could ship 10,000 plastic balls out to Korea and turn a spare room into a ball pit, I just might.

Do I look like some pathetic man-child to some 31 year olds? Sure! But I'm not trying to impress them, I'm trying to live my life in a way that is fun for my girlfriend and I, and so far that has worked out pretty well. I wouldn't trade the last year and a half of my 30's for my entire 20's.

I've had expat friends in their mid to late 20's in Korea who acted like bitter curmudgeons and wore Mr. Rogers sweaters and complained about things constantly. They may not have been "old" but they sure seemed that way, despite being years younger than I. And I've met expats who were well over 40, rocked t-shirts and took motorcycle trips around the Peninsula on the weekends.

I enjoyed some of my 20's, but in hindsight I neither had the financial freedom nor the confidence to just be myself and pursue what made me happy. I felt like I was always in a race with my friends to procure a larger paycheck or a better job or some other way to brag. I no longer think like that and I'm infinitely happier and feel far younger than I "should" for my age.

Do I think 26 is old? Depends on how they look, how they act, and most of all how they feel. However, I sure don't feel old at 31.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
If you're a man and treat women decently you'll never have a problem no matter your age.


As a general rule, ageing, in and of itself, doesn't dramatically influence a man's value on the dating market. However, unless a man is tall, handsome and wealthy, there's no incentive for a young, attractive woman to consider him as a partner over a man her own age.
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Stalin84



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Is mid-twenties "old"? Reply with quote

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It's not that you are feeling older. That's beside the point. It's that you are resisting the pressure you feel to conform to expectations (of family and probably of yourself at some level).


I agree here, almost like you tapped into me on some Freudian level. I thought it was my age itself causing anxiety (when I was 21 I thought 26 was ancient) but it might be the fact a lot more people expecting me to do X, Y and Z now while I don't really feel like it suits me.

I'm supposed to get a job I find menial, work a lot harder, enjoy a lot less and cling to whoever is around me like there is no tomorrow. That pretty much sums up what everyone my age in Canada is doing right now. When I try to circumvent that, my friends try to make me feel miserable about it in an indirect, subtle and highly condescending way, like they know what's best.

A lot of it reflects what I see on this forum quite often. That we're supposed to not see Korea as a place to spend a long time and that we're supposed to return to our home countries regardless of how much fun we're having overseas.

Louis VI wrote:
Stalin84 wrote:
"Aren't you too old to be playing video games?"

Yes.


A lot of people have been saying this to me since I came home but in my defense, there isn't much else to do around here Razz

I don't spend nearly as much time gaming when I'm working. Anyway, I don't see video games as a juvenile pursuit like most of the adult population. It's exactly like watching films or reading books... it's what you chose to play/watch/read and how you go about it.

Louis VI wrote:
Stalin84 wrote:
How do you cope with it?

Grow up.

There are two basic ways that those approaching thirty deal with life: conform or say forget it! Delaying is a third option but amounts to trying to avoid responsibility for one's life. The fact is that one is sheltered and shuttled through the first 22 or so years of one's life, expected to go to school, follow a pretty typical path. Somewhere around 25 one realizes how very open one's future really is and it is at that point that one has to really decide (not making a decision is itself a choice), has fundamental options in terms of way of life that hit home hard. Two 25 year olds are more alike than different; two 35 year olds are often quite different. You are entering that period where the rubber hits the road. Good luck whatever path you take!


This is very insightful. I think my peer group has just started along the road of diverging into a whole variety of pursuits and lifestyles. For the longest time, we were all very similar and now the differences are showing more than ever. Mainly along the lines of what we should do now, after university/Korea.

I have a friend who taught in Korea with me who is now living in my hometown and working away. He thinks his option is the best and that I'm foolish for going back, despite the fact I'll be doing better financially there then I could ever do here.

Another friend is going back to university and she's convinced she's got it all figured out. I can escape dealing with that reality because I still have a lot of loans left over.

Some of my relatives/elders think back to what they were doing at my age and grief me over not moving at a similar pace while not taking into account the different economic/social/technological environment that I live in.

Radius wrote:
Yea im 29 and I just cant get into the club scene anymore. Ever since i turned about 27, my outlook on what is fun and what is not changed dramatically. I welcomed it because i partied enough for two lifetimes when i was in the teens and early 20's, and could use a little bit of relaxation..


I don't know about you lot but I officially retired from clubbing when I was 22. I had a few years (19-20 mainly) when I was hitting the bars/clubs every weekend and after that, I started to have a bad reaction to alcohol (it just makes me tired and sick) which eventually led to me giving up on clubbing altogether.

It makes it hard when 90% of the people I meet in my age range drink as much at their least as I did when I was 20 at the very peak of my alcoholism.
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Kaypea



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving up alcohol makes me feel younger. I order pop, like a kid.

I remember when I was a kid, I would always order a Shirley Temple because my parents thought it was really cute and grown up. I guess, if drinking alcohol makes you grown up, not drinking it makes you younger.
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