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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
and a few middle aged adults for that matter) who chose weird names. I had one guy in his 40s chose "Neo" (back when the first Matrix film was popular. He was sure that it was a real name


I know a guy called Don Quixote. I also know another guy called Terminator.
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Netz



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easier solution is to use their real names.

It's not that hard, at least not any more difficult than making up names to give them for your own convenience.

I only give English names to students that really want one, and even then, I use their Korean name when I speak to them. I have found over the years that many of them prefer their birth name. Imagine that.

It also increases the connection you have with your students by using their given name, rather than some arbitrary name that is superficial at best, or creates a disconnect at worst.

Besides, they might start making Korean names for you, and they won't be based on terms of endearment.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do, give them ENGLISH names. I have Juans, Dimitris, a few Catalinas... What's the point of giving them Spanish/Russian/other foreign language names if it's not an English one? The old teacher at my school gave them a cornucopia of names that run the gamut from basic English names, to many Spanish, French, Russian, and one Polish name (Lech - what Korean kid knows LECH?!?), to the made up names.

One thing I will never do - call my high school kids "Sexy ---" because that's the name they chose, (of which, I have 7 students who had names in that format, and not all of them were girls!).

My coworkers are not happy that I have abandoned the "English" names system the former teacher put together. I suggested that if we're going to use foreign names that aren't even English, why don't we give them all Japanese names?

That stopped the whole conversation dead in its tracks.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
Troglodyte wrote:
and a few middle aged adults for that matter) who chose weird names. I had one guy in his 40s chose "Neo" (back when the first Matrix film was popular. He was sure that it was a real name


I know a guy called Don Quixote. I also know another guy called Terminator.



A petty peave of mine is when ESL learners think joke names from movies and TV shows are real names. It's not their fault, but it's annoying. A bunch of my students think "Big" and "Top" are names because of TV shows and pop stars.

Activities where students talk about English names reveals to me how conservative I am about names. Like when I was insisting that "Suri" was not an English name, until the students pointed out that Tom Cruises' daughter's named that, so I had to concede.
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omniology



Joined: 06 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Neo, now, and had a girl named Hammy. Changed that one. Named a girl India , but mom wasn't happy. Oh and one bot got nicknamed Mosquito in class and that stuck for a while
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margaretmary



Joined: 08 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
There are three girls with English names usually if not always given to boys; Larry, Harry, Ray. Harry's Korean name is Ha Ri. So her English name is naturally 'Harry', if that makes any sense. Larry? Larry is 13. And Ray is 13, as well. Like the sound of it I guess. I sometimes step back and feel like I'm talking to girls who want to be construction workers.


Perhaps you could suggest the more ladylike spelling of Rae.
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margaretmary



Joined: 08 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 3 girls in class--very good friends--all with Ji as part of their Korean names. They chose the English nicknames G1, G2, and G3. I loved it! Razz
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
One of my kids just went from "Cookie Monster" to "Soap". I also have Sponge Bob, Sponge Bill, Sponge Song and Sponge Sofa. What's up with Sky and Blue Sky? I've had a bunch of those.


Thanks for the laugh.

It's a little blue, ok a lot, but Mike Hunt is a nice name.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
There are three girls with English names usually if not always given to boys; Larry, Harry, Ray. Harry's Korean name is Ha Ri. So her English name is naturally 'Harry', if that makes any sense.

Makes perfect sense. I teach a 지미 & she's chosen to spell it Jimmy. A smart & pretty girl, the name fits her well in a cute & unusual way.
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karenology



Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Location: Gwangju City, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is pretty entertaining - I laughed at "Sponge Sofa," the class with all Eunices and Jacks, and I am still laughing at "Beans Cutter" Very Happy

I asked for my kids' Korean names and English names when I first met them, and many of them don't have English ones. I have a girl named "Devil" and a boy named "Sunny" (who really does have a sweet disposition, so I don't have the heart to tell him it's more of a girl's name). I also have a boy who wrote down that his English name is "Chupa"; urban dictionary tells me that means "suck it." He could also have been referring to the Brazilian soccer player, but who knows with middle school boys...
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Dedeko



Joined: 15 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach 4,5,6,7 which means they are really 3,4,5,6

I walked into a kindergarten where the kids were already all named, and godbless the pocket dictionaries.

1 classroom I swear this teacher doesn't like the kids at all. It's a room of 5(read 4) year olds and here are a few of the names:

Ethan (say it Athan)
Vivian (that's just cruel to a 4 year old learning her ABC's)
Banny (that's said Bonnie)
Lucy (he's a boy, fairly sure they meant Lucas)
Sophia (say it so-pee-ah)
Zoy (but that's said Joey)
Anssony (fairy confident they meant Anthony)

Most of my anecdotal experience if the parents are allowed to hear/say English names they can arrive at a decent decision. Newer kids that randomly appear (new students) and are named by an outside source are fine, I have an Ivy. Being a culture of group think, I have the top 100 names for the 2003 through 2010, and that is usually all it takes.

I pick my battles and names isn't one of them. I pronounce the names as I would normally. Instead I battle it out hardcore over the letter F, L, and R.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One you should def avoid....Almond Tease.
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meaghan



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The English name "Emma" was apparently used in a well-known Korean porno (seems really wierd to me, but every Korean under 35 at my school was horrified when one of the foreigners tried to name a girl that recently).

When I have to name a kid I give them a list of 5 or 6 normal sounding names (usually I use friends' names) and let them choose. If a kid comes to my class with a weird English name, or wants to use their Korean name, I let them do that. I think it's ok to give kids names using hard-to-pronounce sounds, coaching them to pronounce it properly is a teaching opportunity.

The best names I've had are Aloha and Undertaker. I've heard from friends of students named Hipster, Max Power, Lemon, Hotdog, Mos Def, Zeus and Metallica (kind of pretty for a girl?)
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach some kids with wacky names (none I gave them). I don't get the wet blankets on here complaining about using English names for kids. I had a French name when I took French class. I wasn't deeply offended, nor were my parents. Its only white K-nights that look for any reason to be smug about all of our "cultural insensitivities."
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

osangrl wrote:
Jill


DO NOT NAME A GIRL Jill......i think it mean vagina or something.


Laughing Yup it does.
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