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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Dave's I love this place. Where logic comes to die. |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Stalin84 wrote: |
northway wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
Toronto and Vancouver is the only places to be in Canada. Anything else is just backwater swamp to me. |
I take it you've never stepped foot in Montreal. |
Or Halifax. Or St. John's. Or Fredericton. Or Charlottetown.
Seriously, I hate people who think Toronto and Vancouver are the only cities in Canada worth visiting. I'd rather spend time in any of cities I listed above than in Toronto (I can't speak for Vancouver having never been there). |
Actually, to be fair, Montreal has pretty much the best nightlife of any Canadian city. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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austrian123 wrote: |
Provence wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
Believe it or not, almost every K girl that I know who has married a western guy has ended up divorcing them...mainly for cultural reasons. |
And almost all the Korean women I know that have married a western men are completely happy with their marriage, have children, and lead productive lives in Korea.
It is interesting that the divorce rate in Korea has been on the rise lately though. 42% is pretty high.
http://mybox.happycampus.com/penpont/708945
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3011119.stm |
Divorce is prevalent in many countries, and I don't dispute that the divorce rate in Korea is high. Korea has changed quite a bit since the old days.
Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not trying to argue the merits of Korean women marrying western men. I really believe that race doesn't matter when it comes to marriage or dating. But ask yourself: why is korea 99% homogeneous? If the trend was for Korean women to favour western men, don't you think that korea would be less homogeneous?
Moreover, I don't dispute that almost all the people you know who have married Korean girls are leading happy lives....but let me ask you, how many? 5 or 6? Not a large enough sample size as there will always be exceptions. I personally know 15 couples...all divorced except for 2.
I also agree that some Korean women prefer western men over Korean men because of the way Korean men treat their wives, but having talked to many many many Korean NATIVE FOB GIRLS (not gyopos), the majority will go out with western guys to learn english only, and that the majority of these girls will often settle with a Korean guy in the end.
Also, according to my wife, Korean girls are finally catching on male western esl teachers...that they are often dateless and come to Korea for easy p*ssy and that many come to Korea due to limited opportunities at home.
And to your wife's friends who complain about korean guys....tell them this: why don't you go out and get a good job so that you can pay for housing and support your family. Instead of b*tching and complaining about Korean husbands, ask them to put themselves in the shoes of Korean men. Enough said. |
Why do I think that this poster doesn't actually live in korea?
Sounds a lot like posters over here - http://forum.koreansentry.com/viewforum.php?f=37&sid=6af489326d1b495c73695033dd851f06 |
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shaunew

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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austrian123 wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
There is a whole forum of happily married Korean-western couples. I know many korean - western couples and non of them are divorced. I am one and very happy. Its a misconception that western men and Korean women get divorced so easily. When in fact the newspapers report interracial marriages ending in divorce or Korean men and southeast Asian women. FTW |
How many?
And why is Korea 99% homogeneous? |
A site that I am a member of who caters to f-visa holders has over 400 member most are married and happy. I have rarely heard of couples getting a divorce. However, in the last two years about 10 Korean couples that are in my extended family or my wifes friends of gotten a divorce, due to either infidelity or domestic violence.
Why is Irlend, Lesotho, Poland, Slovenia, Swaziland, Tunisia, Zambia, Zimbabwe,close to 99% homogeneous. This is just a small list of homogeneous countries, as you can see there is nothing special about Korea in this sense.
Living in Canada I think you can value the opportunities that are given to you because of multi-cultural ism and a society that embraces everyones differences so much so that tradition is often abandon to accept everyone ie. Can't say Merry Christmas you must say happy holidays. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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shaunew wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
There is a whole forum of happily married Korean-western couples. I know many korean - western couples and non of them are divorced. I am one and very happy. Its a misconception that western men and Korean women get divorced so easily. When in fact the newspapers report interracial marriages ending in divorce or Korean men and southeast Asian women. FTW |
How many?
And why is Korea 99% homogeneous? |
A site that I am a member of who caters to f-visa holders has over 400 member most are married and happy. I have rarely heard of couples getting a divorce. However, in the last two years about 10 Korean couples that are in my extended family or my wifes friends of gotten a divorce, due to either infidelity or domestic violence. |
I'm with austrian123 on this one, the foreign-Korean couples I've known are mostly divorced. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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jvalmer wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
There is a whole forum of happily married Korean-western couples. I know many korean - western couples and non of them are divorced. I am one and very happy. Its a misconception that western men and Korean women get divorced so easily. When in fact the newspapers report interracial marriages ending in divorce or Korean men and southeast Asian women. FTW |
How many?
And why is Korea 99% homogeneous? |
A site that I am a member of who caters to f-visa holders has over 400 member most are married and happy. I have rarely heard of couples getting a divorce. However, in the last two years about 10 Korean couples that are in my extended family or my wifes friends of gotten a divorce, due to either infidelity or domestic violence. |
I'm with austrian123 on this one, the foreign-Korean couples I've known are mostly divorced. |
I'd say about half the relationships/marriages I've seen with foreign men and Korean women ended because the girl cheated. |
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shaunew

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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jvalmer wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
There is a whole forum of happily married Korean-western couples. I know many korean - western couples and non of them are divorced. I am one and very happy. Its a misconception that western men and Korean women get divorced so easily. When in fact the newspapers report interracial marriages ending in divorce or Korean men and southeast Asian women. FTW |
How many?
And why is Korea 99% homogeneous? |
A site that I am a member of who caters to f-visa holders has over 400 member most are married and happy. I have rarely heard of couples getting a divorce. However, in the last two years about 10 Korean couples that are in my extended family or my wifes friends of gotten a divorce, due to either infidelity or domestic violence. |
I'm with austrian123 on this one, the foreign-Korean couples I've known are mostly divorced. |
The couples that I know and are friends with are still together after many years and all have kids, both of them are also in professional type jobs and the wife is educated. However, given the divorce rates in Korea and America being 50% I don't doubt it, I can only speak from my personal experiences. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Location: here
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: |
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austrian123 wrote: |
v88 wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
Italy37612 wrote: |
Wow Austrian. I really hope you are trolling this thread. If you actually feel this way... wow just wow. I am literally speechless due to your idiocy. Well done. |
What exactly makes you feel speechless? |
I'll take a wild stab in the dark...your lack of intelligence perhaps? I don't know... |
lack of intelligence? nah, I'd say difference of opinion and freedom of speech. And in the end, it doesn't matter what you say about me, actually it makes me laugh....because I know for a fact that I'm more intelligent than you.
Please list your educational and professional credentials......oh and esl teaching doesn't count. |
Thanks for the proof.
You start by complaining about racism in Canada then make rather racist comments later on in the same thread. You ask for freedom of speech and not to be judged yet seem to judge those you disagree with.
Freedom of speech seems to apply more to you than others.
I don't really sense this mighty intellect you are implying you have.
But, hey who am I to judge? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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jvalmer wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
shaunew wrote: |
There is a whole forum of happily married Korean-western couples. I know many korean - western couples and non of them are divorced. I am one and very happy. Its a misconception that western men and Korean women get divorced so easily. When in fact the newspapers report interracial marriages ending in divorce or Korean men and southeast Asian women. FTW |
How many?
And why is Korea 99% homogeneous? |
A site that I am a member of who caters to f-visa holders has over 400 member most are married and happy. I have rarely heard of couples getting a divorce. However, in the last two years about 10 Korean couples that are in my extended family or my wifes friends of gotten a divorce, due to either infidelity or domestic violence. |
I'm with austrian123 on this one, the foreign-Korean couples I've known are mostly divorced. |
odd. In the dozens I've met personally here, I can only recall one divorce.
/shrug |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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I don't anyone who was married to a Korean that is now divorced...or any Koreans that were married to foreigners that are now divorced. It must happen, I just haven't met any.
A couple of years ago there were press reports about the "skyrocketing" divorce rate in Korea. I think that it was claimed that Korea had the fastest rising divorce rate in the world. The stats (IMHO) were misleading. I think that divorce increased because the social stigma attached to it lessened...the rate rapidly caught up with the western rate of around 50% then leveled off. |
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Poker
Joined: 16 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I feel the pressure for Koreans to marry before hitting 30 is huge. Most Koreans rush into it, I have Korean friends who tell me, "I want to marry a man with a good job, reputaion, handsome etc before i'm 30 .... then I will spend time to love him." Stupid. But however much I try to convince them that the way they treat marriage will lead to unhappy lives, they do live in a society where there is a social stigma placed upon 30+ unmarried Koreans. Which is why I always tread carefully with advances from woman in thier late 20s here. I may be just a checklist that they find is suitable for marriage. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Poker wrote: |
I have Korean friends who tell me, "I want to marry a man with a good job, reputation, handsome etc before i'm 30 .... then I will spend time to love him.
I may be just a checklist that they find is suitable for marriage. |
Rest assured that if "good job" and "reputation" were serious considerations then they wouldn't bother with English teachers.
I think "I'm dating a foreign English teacher" is a little above or the same as (salary wise) "I'm dating a bus driver." Not that there is anything wrong with dating bus drivers, of course. |
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SinclairLondon
Joined: 17 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I feel the pressure for Koreans to marry before hitting 30 is huge. Most Koreans rush into it, I have Korean friends who tell me, "I want to marry a man with a good job, reputaion, handsome etc before i'm 30 .... then I will spend time to love him." Stupid. |
Same goes for university. It drives me crazy that most Koreans can't choose their majors, at least choose what they are really interested in. But at the end of the day, like marriage, it doesn't matter.
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Rest assured that if "good job" and "reputation" were serious considerations then they wouldn't bother with English teachers. |
Thats only if they stay in Korea. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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shaunew wrote: |
Why is Irlend, Lesotho, Poland, Slovenia, Swaziland, Tunisia, Zambia, Zimbabwe,close to 99% homogeneous. This is just a small list of homogeneous countries, as you can see there is nothing special about Korea in this sense. |
Well, in the case of about half of the countries on that list, they are homogeneous today because in the late 20th century their governments held "land reform" programs that involved confiscating all the land that was owned by white people, sending them "back to Europe" and redistributing the land to black people... |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Charlie Bourque wrote: |
Stalin84 wrote: |
northway wrote: |
austrian123 wrote: |
Toronto and Vancouver is the only places to be in Canada. Anything else is just backwater swamp to me. |
I take it you've never stepped foot in Montreal. |
Or Halifax. Or St. John's. Or Fredericton. Or Charlottetown.
Seriously, I hate people who think Toronto and Vancouver are the only cities in Canada worth visiting. I'd rather spend time in any of cities I listed above than in Toronto (I can't speak for Vancouver having never been there). |
Actually, to be fair, Montreal has pretty much the best nightlife of any Canadian city. |
I'm not 19-22 anymore so I don't give two craps about night life. Quality of life is more important to me (nice parks, friendly people, low crime, diversity, lots of options, opportunities, interesting places etc). |
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