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Too expensive to fix on a Sunday....

 
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okiedokie



Joined: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Too expensive to fix on a Sunday.... Reply with quote

In the early hours of this morning we realized we had no running water. Our apartment is in a villa building with only offices below and of course no-one else has been in all weekend. So we suspected the pipes were frozen. We tried to heat the pipes coming into our apartment but had no luck.

We rent our apartment from a private landlord, so when a reasonable hour arrived 9am we called them and after much waiting (about 7 hours) a plumber was sent out. He said it is the pipes that have frozen somewhere in the building.

The plumber then left and we received a phone call from our landlord saying that its too expensive to fix it on a Sunday, $250 an hour, so theyll come sometime tomorrow instead.

This doesnt seem very fair to us. We havent been able to shower, use the toilet, wash our hands, wash up all day and have waited around for it to be fixed only for the landlord to CHOOSE not to fix it today because of the cost. I would understand if it couldnt be fixed today or there was no-one available to fix it but this seems to be a bit of a joke. It's the landlords responsibility to provide a rentable apartment and without water it's not!

I'm just wondering if you guys think its fair for us to insist they fix it today or failing that pay for us to stay in a hotel instead??

Does anyone have any idea what the laws and legislation around this kind of issue are here?
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, it's $250 an hour. Who knows how many hours it will cost. I'd tell you the same thing. Wait till Monday.

Then I'd slide you a 10,000 coupon for some chicken place as a thank you.
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okiedokie



Joined: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, if there was some hint of a thank you like that at the end or even a goodwill gesture like paying for however much water we're going to end up buying at the shop then I'd feel a bit better about it. As it stands though we pay 1.5mill a month to be grubby and having to walk to the nearest coffee shop for a bathroom stop. Not what you expect when you're paying a pretty penny!
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Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's totally unreasonable of the landlord to wait until tomorrow seeing as it's 250 an hour, but then again he is getting 1.5 mill a month, but who knows what his mortgage is costing him.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes that sucks. Why not show up at his place with your shower stuff in a basket and tell him you must bathe.

At least he isn't making you pay for the plumber, though. I hope everything is fixed by tomorrow.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This weekend, it seems, is an extreme weather event. Reportedly lots of frozen pipes throughout the city. Its not the landlord's fault.

Why not just get yourselves a toasty little room in some love motel, take a long steamy shower, & relax. Is that really gonna break the bank?
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that the problem is that it would break the bank. I think the issue at hand is the the landlord is shirking his duty to save money and on top of it not even trying to be apologetic about it.

What kind of apartment are you in that you're paying 1.5million Won/month? That ought to be a really nice place. Otherwise, for 1.5 million a month, I'd expect the landlord to get it fixed at 3 in the morning - and smile while he does so.
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no way it costs $250 an hour, even on a Sunday. The guy is lying. Call him out on it. Where's that outstanding Korean work ethic when you need it, eh?
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
What kind of apartment are you in that you're paying 1.5million Won/month? That ought to be a really nice place. Otherwise, for 1.5 million a month, I'd expect the landlord to get it fixed at 3 in the morning - and smile while he does so.


Seconded!

Sorry to be nosy, but are you guys doing that on a teacher's pay? Or do you have 3 or 4 room mates chipping in?
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plumbers dont cost anywhere near that, even on a Sunday. May be that many pipes froze this weekend and the plumbers are just servicing the highest bidders. And they wouldnt be doing any real plumbing anyway, just heating up the pipes is all.
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Rutherford



Joined: 31 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:
And they wouldnt be doing any real plumbing anyway, just heating up the pipes is all.


Often when pipes freeze they also burst because water expands as it freezes. Though something tells me if he had a burst pipe flooding his basement paying the plumber wouldn't have been a problem.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pipes freeze all the time when it is REALLY cold in Korea. I had it happen at least once almost every winter I was there.

I used to just go to the local Sauna and shower. I like the idea of the love motel too, but my heating was never a problem, just the water to shower or cook.

I am not sure there is much the plumber can do when the pipes freeze like that either...if I were you guys I would look for a better place to spend 1.5mil a month in rent. For that much money you guys should be in a fancy apartment.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Too expensive to fix on a Sunday.... Reply with quote

You are without water for one day... can someone please enlighten me why this is a problem?
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Too expensive to fix on a Sunday.... Reply with quote

UknowsI wrote:
You are without water for one day... can someone please enlighten me why this is a problem?


If it's laundry day, as well as the day of the week that you clean, and you have work all week, it's a problem. I do the majority of my chores on Sunday.

No, the world won't end, but if someone is paying 1.5 million won a month, this should be taken care of the same day.
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Chris.Quigley



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Belfast. N Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a Jimjilbang. It sucks... But 250$/hour is really expensive... If it was your house back home... would you really fork out 250$ an hour to fix a problem? Or would you wait until Monday when the price dropped significantly? Most people can't afford it... Neither can most apartment buildings.

If apartment management said, "we are just going to wait until the spring roles around..." I would say you have a legitimate right to complain. But, management in this case seems to be being kind of reasonable to me... Just wait 'til tomorrow. Go to a bathhouse for now... Heck, you might even enjoy it!
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