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kimiki



Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: non-korean restaurants Reply with quote

if anyone has found a non-korean eatery that does not bear all three of these characteristics--

1. overpriced
2. noticeably small portions
3. unskillful or at best inconsistent flavoring to inadequately adapted dishes

--then please let me know. i always leave those places feeling underfed and overcharged. in other words, i guess the term is, 'ripped off'? yet numerous friends and acquaintances seem to think so many of these establishments are the bees' knees.... why are these places so popular? is it a result of lowered standards or are people just so eager for something slightly different that they'll put up with the disappointing aspects of these places? and why do they feel entitled to overcharge so much? 20,000 won for 2.5 oz of pasta covered in what's essentially a mayonnaise and milk sauce with a few unshelled shrimp and mussels on top... 15,000 won for a "burrito" slighly larger than a pencil case and filled entirely with rice.... how do these places stay in business???? it is an offense to foodies everywhere.

don't mean to sound harsh.... of course i know there are highly-skilled chefs here. i have and i do patronize numerous korean restaurants where i feel i get excellent value and top-notch delicious fare. but every time i see another so-called italian or mexican or thai or indian place i just pray no one will expect me to dine with them there anytime soon....


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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What qualifies as overpriced? I got a decent burrito in Incheon for 7,000 won, and it was very large (enough for 2 meals).
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you been to On The Border?

It's expensive compared to Korean food, but you really get what you pay for. It's better than a lot of tex-mex restaurants I've been to in the states. Handmade tortillas and chips, huge burritos and enchiladas, carne asadas, steak tacos and fajitas, and big schooners full of margarita or ice cold beer.

I went there a couple times a month, totally worth it.

Also Taj Palace and Chakraa in Itaewon are pretty good Indian buffets. Not super great by any means, but they're cheap enough that it doesn't really matter.

Those My Thai and My China places in Itaewon are pretty good too.

Taco Chili Chili in Haebangchon is decent and cheap, same with Dos Tacos in Hongdae (the pork and shrimp burrito is awesome).

Rocky Mountain Tavern has good comfort food, and their Tuesday buffalo wing nights are the best.

You're probably going to complain that all of these places are "too expensive" though, in which case my response would be "deal with it." If you insist on getting delicious western food at a very cheap price, Asia is probably not for you...
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like dos tacos, even compared to american standards. and its not that expensive. 8-9,000 for a burrito.

i want to find an good/authentic thai or viet restaurant here but none of the ones i've tried are any good. even the ones that are run by viets have been koreanized.

i do here ansan has an asia-town with really good food. haven't been down there yet though.

oh and there's a decent burger joint called valance burger. they have two locations, one at hanyang uni and konkuk uni.
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kimiki



Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i haven't tried on the border... whereabouts is it? sounds great.... i will check it out....

i used to like dos tacos but not anymore. they are decent but i need a certain ratio of protein to carbs.... though their burritos are delicious, they all lack substantial protein and don't qualify as a meal, in my opinion.

i know i'm being too picky. not fair to compare the indian food i used to get in midtown NYC to what's available here. or the amazing tex-mex from my small new england college town to dos tacos, etc..... i just miss it, that's all. still love my job though! so can't really say that "asia's not for me...." solution: i just mostly eat at home nowadays. anyway i will try to check out these other places recommended here too. thanks, people....
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a restaurant that I really enjoy at Yongsan I-Park Mall. It's called AMIGO's and it'sItalian. I'm always impressed with the quality o the food. The only downsideis they put this seetcrap on the garlic bread. Otherwise, the chicken salad and the pasta is quite nice. Pretty good bang for your buck. It's around the 5th or 6th floor.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimiki wrote:
i haven't tried on the border... whereabouts is it? sounds great.... i will check it out....

i used to like dos tacos but not anymore. they are decent but i need a certain ratio of protein to carbs.... though their burritos are delicious, they all lack substantial protein and don't qualify as a meal, in my opinion.

i know i'm being too picky. not fair to compare the indian food i used to get in midtown NYC to what's available here. or the amazing tex-mex from my small new england college town to dos tacos, etc..... i just miss it, that's all. still love my job though! so can't really say that "asia's not for me...." solution: i just mostly eat at home nowadays. anyway i will try to check out these other places recommended here too. thanks, people....


There's one On The Border outside Sinchon station (line 2) and another one at the COEX mall. Dinner there is the best but if you're on a tight budget go during lunch and get a combo meal, they are a little smaller but quite a bit less expensive than dinner.
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offtheoche



Joined: 21 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

machoman wrote:


i want to find an good/authentic thai or viet restaurant here but none of the ones i've tried are any good. even the ones that are run by viets have been koreanized.


There's only one good Thai restaurant in Korea and that is Wang Thai Itaewon). I've eaten there several times with my Thai friends, and it's the only Thai restaurant that has authentic Thai food. Prices are very reasonable and portions are a generous size.

After living for three years in Thailand I really craved Thai food and found other Thai restaurants here to be a complete disappointment, so glad this place opened up!

Take a look here.............. http://www.wangthai.kr/
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also an On the Border in Yeoungdongpo's Times Square shopping mall.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My top 10 ones are here:

http://www.squidoo.com/the-best-expat-restaurants-in-korea
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

offtheoche wrote:
machoman wrote:


i want to find an good/authentic thai or viet restaurant here but none of the ones i've tried are any good. even the ones that are run by viets have been koreanized.


There's only one good Thai restaurant in Korea and that is Wang Thai Itaewon). I've eaten there several times with my Thai friends, and it's the only Thai restaurant that has authentic Thai food. Prices are very reasonable and portions are a generous size.

After living for three years in Thailand I really craved Thai food and found other Thai restaurants here to be a complete disappointment, so glad this place opened up!

Take a look here.............. http://www.wangthai.kr/


That looks really good. Thanks for the link!
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

offtheoche wrote:
machoman wrote:


i want to find an good/authentic thai or viet restaurant here but none of the ones i've tried are any good. even the ones that are run by viets have been koreanized.


There's only one good Thai restaurant in Korea and that is Wang Thai Itaewon). I've eaten there several times with my Thai friends, and it's the only Thai restaurant that has authentic Thai food. Prices are very reasonable and portions are a generous size.

After living for three years in Thailand I really craved Thai food and found other Thai restaurants here to be a complete disappointment, so glad this place opened up!

Take a look here.............. http://www.wangthai.kr/


i've actually been here before but i went alone during a slow slow lunch and thought it was ok. but i'll try it again, possibly tonight for a new years eve dinner.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

machoman wrote:
i do here ansan has an asia-town with really good food. haven't been down there yet though.


Asia Town is cool, but don't go there expecting huge variety in terms of restaurants. I did find a legit Vietnamese restaurant full of Vietnamese factory workers drinking beer and watching soaps, and having been to Vietnam, it definitely held up. That said, there just aren't as many restaurants as I would expect given the hype.

As for the OP: I think a lot of people throw the overpriced label around a bit too much. For example, Suji's Deli charges only slightly more for a pastrami sandwich or a reuben than you would pay in the States, yet it is Public Enemy Number 1 when people are discussing overpriced Western food.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also enjoyed eating at Wang Thai. They have good fish.
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kimiki



Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:


As for the OP: I think a lot of people throw the overpriced label around a bit too much. For example, Suji's Deli charges only slightly more for a pastrami sandwich or a reuben than you would pay in the States, yet it is Public Enemy Number 1 when people are discussing overpriced Western food.


when i say overpriced i mean compared to korean places. how is it that 4,500 won can buy me a bowl of delicious tofu soup chock full of a variety of fresh vegetables and homemade tofu, plus at least 1.5 cups of rice, plus seemingly endless amounts of kimchi and side dishes (at the places i go to, they offer to refill my plate at least 2x...haven't ever asked for more beyond that...think they'd probably say yes, though....). plus occasionally a random, unsolicited fried egg or charred dokbokki on a stick or sweet rice cakes etc. when the ajumma is in a good mood.... it's true yummy abundance!!!

meanwhile, when i pay 7,500 for a burrito i get basically all tortilla, lettuce and some sauce that i think is a sour cream-like substance. tasty, yes! but i always feel like 'where's the beef' with those things.... and really, the numbers don't add up. when i get the order of french fries at dos tacos or kraze burger or a couple of other places there are approximately 12-13 of them on the plate. for 5,000 won. (yes, i count.) more than the entire cost of the previously described, vastly more ample and elaborate korean meal. that's just lunacy. or greed. it's like at korean restaurants the accountant is asleep at the wheel, but at places like dos tacos the accountant cracks the whip and is relentlessly focused on profit margins.

oh and great links everyone. i will indeed keep an open mind and explore the places you all have recommended! fantastic info.
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