Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Mr. Pink]

[Skarp]

When Koreans bitch and whine about bad English Teachers - I just say to them - who hired them? Who pays them xmillion won a month to do a bad job? Who attends their lessons and puts up with bad teaching?


Koreans, Koreans, Koreans.....


Skarp

[crazylemongirl]

[Ody]

[Zed]

[shawner88]

[Pyongshin Sangja]

Thoroughly examined? Wake me for the body cavity search!

[matthewwoodford]

If Mr Genius had his way I should indeed be quavering at the thought of being asked to distinguish a noun from a verb or explain to someone when to use 'Me, either' instead of 'Me, too'. If only I could do that I would truly be worthy of adulation and indeed reverence from students and staff at any hagwan. I'm sure the wonjangnim would vastly prefer to hire someone soooo qualified rather than a recent graduate here to party and pay off student loans. If only the government would recognise the genius in the humble author of this article and adopt his enlightened suggestions, Korea would be rid of the nuisance of rather poorly educated foreign dross who are not qualified teachers whatsoever. It is a matter of sadness that Korea must waste national wealth on people who would be jobless persons in their own countries.

[ryleeys]

I was... umm... thoroughly examined... upon entering the country at the airport.

[crazylemongirl]

[Badmojo]

[Badmojo]

Listen, Koreans, you get what you pay for. You get what your country has to offer. How many of us said, "It is a dream of mine to work in Korea. I can't wait to finish school so I can go there." Ha!

The reason why there are so many unprofessionals in Korea is because professionals have better places to be. So live with it, because that's not going to change until the pay does.

So you can keep writing your articles dumping on stupid foreigners who you've hired.

[sheeon]

Back to that article written by that pompous Korean who basically blasted the foreigners for not knowing the difference between voiced/ voiceless sounds and about the technical names for the parts of speech. I believe koreans mostly think that usefulness of a foreign teacher is mainly in English conversation. If a Korean wants to learn grammar, there are tons of grammar books readily available written by very good teachers writeen in native korean which is much easier to understand.
Koreans need contact with a foreigner to just get the shyness and the fear off of them. Picking up English is a different matter, since English is used so little outside of the classrooms, but I think generally, teachers try hard.

[Ody]

you mean when i taught my class the difference between voiced and voiceless sound, it wasn't new information?

[some waygug-in]

Duh? What's an article?


But seriously, my first job here was a conversation teacher. I was specifically told to stay away from teaching grammar in class. Later I was asked to teach a writing class, where some grammar was part of the lesson. (mostly collocation and sentence structure)
Most of them couldn't make a sentence if their life depended on it.
Koreans think they know a lot more than they do, for the most part, and they refused to believe me when I corrected them for things like

"a dozen of roses"

"according with"

"I asked to my sister"

They claimed that I didn't know what I was talking about, and that what they had said was in fact correct.

I found out later, as I looked through some of the Korean/English grammar books, that they may well have seen these structures being listed as correct. Korean books on English grammar are notoriously bad,
with numerous mistakes and idiomatic phrases used in the wrong context.

So they can whine all they want, and they will. But the fact is, a lot of the time they don't have a clue what they are whining about.

Cheers