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mises
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: culture of silence |
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Top detective blasts 'culture of silence' that allows Asian sex gangs to groom white girls... because police and social services fear being branded racist
Police and social services have been accused of fuelling a culture of silence which has allowed hundreds of young white girls to be exploited by Asian men for sex.
Agencies have identified a long-term pattern of offending by gangs of men, predominantly from the British Pakistani community, who have befriended and abused hundreds of vulnerable girls aged 11 to 16.
Experts claim the statistics represent a mere fraction of a 'tidal wave' of offending in counties across the Midlands and the north of England which has been going on for more than a decade.
A senior officer at West Mercia police has called for an end to the 'damaging taboo' connecting on-street grooming with race.
Detective Chief Inspector Alan Edwards said: 'These girls are being passed around and used as meat.
'To stop this type of crime you need to start everyone talking about it but everyone's been too scared to address the ethnicity factor.
'No one wants to stand up and say that Pakistani guys in some parts of the country are recruiting young white girls and passing them around their relatives for sex, but we need to stop being worried about the racial complication.'
In a briefing paper, researchers at University College London's Jill Dando Institute of Security and Crime Science concurred that victims were typically white girls while 'most central offenders are Pakistani'.
The offenders were not viewed as paedophiles but had picked the girls 'because of their malleability'.
The report concluded that 'race is a delicate issue' that should be 'handled sensitively but not brushed under the carpet'.
The grooming usually begins with older groups of men befriending girls aged from 11 to 16 they meet on the street. |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344218/Asian-sex-gangs-Culture-silence-allows-grooming-white-girls-fear-racist.html#ixzz1ADvJkzOV
Poor white girls. If only the demographics had been reversed, then they'd have gotten some attention. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lamentable, but not news. I remember people being outraged by this nigh on 10 years ago. Sad to see it still going on.
My understanding is that the types of girls targeted are generally quite poor and the grooming process involves taking them out for food, buying them nice things, and then pressuring them into a bit of jolly-rogering.
The type of girl that comes to mind is generally quite ugly and at first I'd wonder why these men bothered. However I thought perhaps if a Pakistani girl behaved or was used like this there'd be more than a few "Honour Killings" on the go. |
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mises
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Not news? The 'culture of silence' has led the government to effectively abandon the duty of public safety for poor white girls who are being gang raped by packs of Vibrant Diversity. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Not news? The 'culture of silence' has led the government to effectively abandon the duty of public safety for poor white girls who are being gang raped by packs of Vibrant Diversity. |
I say "not news" in the context that this information isn't new. Like I say, I remember it from years ago, and yes Pakistani men are a pest to white women, especially if they are alone. I don't really recall much being doing about it back then either. |
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Space Bar
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:33 am Post subject: |
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It strains credulity that there are hordes of 11-16-year-olds being raped statutorily, by gangs or otherwise which when notified, police ignore. All the cases given were prosecuted. Where is the evidence for many more unreported/unacted upon cases?
Sounds like more hysteria-mongering to me. |
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Ave, L�cifer
Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| the daily mail, all you need to know. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Ave, L�cifer wrote: |
| the daily mail, all you need to know. |
So true, my mother is an avid reader of that tripe *high five* |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:45 am Post subject: |
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The article is rather vague about what exactly it is asserting.
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'To stop this type of crime you need to start everyone talking about it but everyone's been too scared to address the ethnicity factor.
'No one wants to stand up and say that Pakistani guys in some parts of the country are recruiting young white girls and passing them around their relatives for sex, but we need to stop being worried about the racial complication.'
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I'm not sure what the detective means by people "not addressing the ethnicity factor".
Let's assume for the sake of argument that this really does boil down to a problem with Pakistani men. How would publically announcing this demographic fact make preventing and solving the crimes any easier?
It seems to me that if the cops see a 13-year old girl repeatedly being picked up and dropped off on a street corner in a known red-light district(for example), they are justified in trying to make some sort of contact with the girl, and possibly with the guys dropping her off, in order to find out what's going on. And if this eventually leads to arrests, great. What added crime-fighting value is there to be gained by the police saying "And by the way, most of these guys are Pakistani?" |
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stilicho25
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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The Guardian picked up the story as well now. Jack Straw also mentioned the ethnic component.
@ OTOH mentioning the race of the perpetrator of a crime seems pretty standard when skinheads attack some immigrant. It really brings my heart joy to see the tables turned. Is it useful? Not at all. Is it corrosive to the public space to blame a group (most of whose members behave perfectly well) for crimes. Absolutely. But this is the world liberals have created. Instead of the following the rules about when race is mentioned in relation to a crime (the multi-kult hiearchy of victims) its now a free for all. I hope the left enjoy reaping what they have wrought. |
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NovaKart
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12144411
Here's an article about this from the BBC.
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| But Mr Straw told the BBC there was a "specific problem" in some areas and called on the Pakistani community to be "more open" about the abuse. |
To me this sounds like his purpose is to ask for help from the Pakistani community.
Apparently the director of a Muslim youth group agrees with him.
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Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim youth group the Ramadhan Foundation, said he believed race was an issue.
He said: "I first raised this two or three years ago and I got a lot of stick within the community from people who said I was doing the work of the BNP and stigmatising them.
"Most people didn't realise the seriousness of it. But now, after a series of court cases, things have changed. I have had a lot of support."
But he added: "These gangs that operate are criminals. There's nothing in their culture, there's nothing in their religion to suggest that this sort of thing is ingrained." |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| @ OTOH mentioning the race of the perpetrator of a crime seems pretty standard when skinheads attack some immigrant. It really brings my heart joy to see the tables turned. Is it useful? Not at all. |
In the case of neo-nazi skinheads, race is part-and-parcel of their ideology. It's the reason they commit their crimes. So, it would be kind of hard to discuss their motivations without mentioning that they were white(or at least white-supremacists) and their victims were not.
I don't object if reports on Muslim terrorism mention the religion of the perpetrators. |
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stilicho25
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NovaKart
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| This is a completely different situation from what we were originally talking about. |
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travel zen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I've travelled a bit, and I can tell you straight that many eastern cultures, due to porn or Hollywood or whatever, think that white girls are 'easy' becuase of their culture. I don't know if they think its because of their race. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
| I've travelled a bit, and I can tell you straight that many eastern cultures, due to porn or Hollywood or whatever, think that white girls are 'easy' becuase of their culture. I don't know if they think its because of their race. |
The ones over here are also quite fat, and therefore, as some often posit, bad and immoral. |
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