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[Axiom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_HLVYN37s

[stilicho25]

the guy asking for bacon is being a smart ass, but that reaction is just way over the line. Serious anger issues.

[Steelrails]

Young fast food employees are the same the world over. This is exactly the same thing as Scarface grabbing the mic in half baked and telling everyone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOKJTRHMdw

Of course its funny when its a stoner, but a Muslim does it and everyone goes on and on about sharia law and he's a terrorist and blah blah blah.

Remember, there was no camera on the dudes asking for bacon. They could have been some serious jerks, maybe drunk.

And those people on youtube are morons, no one forced them to go into KFC. If KFC wants to be halal friendly, then fine with them. Go eat at Popeyes.

I mean you work at a crap job, where people treat you like crap, then you get some young people who are probably messing with you cuz you're an immigrant and doing it through your religion, then they start to record you....

And it was completely unnecessary to start filming.

That and fast food is not a right.

[stilicho25]

No. Threatening to stop someones head in for attempting to order bacon and then recording your reaction is crazy. The other muslims in the video acted quite responsibly, and were polite despite the recorders attempts to bait them. Just out of curiosity, i notice you put yourself in the devils advocate position frequently. May I ask, is this your real belief that this is acceptable behaviour, or are you just arguing pro forma?

[Steelrails]

While I don't agree with the reaction of the young man, I can certainly sympathize with him.

I used to work food service and yes, lots of times people try to mess with you because you are working food service and wearing the stupid paper hat.

I also don't think it was right for the person to start recording him. Considering how upset we get at people staring at us and going "oooo waygookin" I can sympathize with a guy getting a camera turned on him and "oooo angry Muslim".

Also, if the person was informed that the KFC was Kosher, and therefore had no bacon, do you think the reaction of people would be the same? Would there be the same cries of "get out of our country" and "these people are terrible"? The guy insisting on the bacon would have been smeared as an anti-semite and ignoramus.

And I really don't like people who get in their heads to try and mess with people through juvenile antics and then if someone gets upset over it play a victim card.

Stand behind that register at a fast food restaurant and experience the nonsense that goes on. Or better yet, just go to the McD's/T-Bell in Itaewon at BarThirty and see the crap the staff has to put up with.

People will bash Muslims for wanting to Halal options and then go into the Itaewon Taco Bell and get miffed that the order taker can't understand English perfectly.

I think most educated adults if they found out that the KFC was halal and no longer offered bacon would react politely and not throw a fit. If they disagreed they might make a calm and polite complaint to the manager (without any insinuations about Muslims taking over the country) or write a letter to KFC.

We get the phone focused on the guy behind the counter. I think a video recording of the bacon complainer would tell a different story.

[Kuros]

[comm]

Why does everyone think the angry guy is a Muslim?

Anyway, I always think it's funny when people react in extreme anger to minor events (such as the words of strangers). Pathetic human beings that can't keep their emotions in check deserve to be humiliated.

And yes, I've worked in subservient situations where customers have been angry with me, detested my existence, and even actively tried to prevent me from doing my job (with words, that is). But you have to either handle that with your wit and a smile or not at all.

[Steelrails]

[chellovek]

[stilicho25]

No. The people who owned the property can decide if someone is recorded, and it decided that the customer was right, and the employee was wrong. It suspended the employee. Thats the rational action for a biz to take when confronted by such anti-social behavior. The customer is paying, and deserves the leeway.

The fact that he is an immigrant should make him more prone to be tolerant, not less. Living in Korea, or Japan, or Taiwan, we are expected to tolerate behavior that locals consider normal but we might consider rude. It is the same for this guy.

I just can't wrap my head around your attitude. Lebanese gangs are running amok, Lebanese immigrants are responsible for crime way out of proportion to their number, but the real problem is intolerance for immigrants. I really can't wait for the day when when western countries hold immigrants to the same standard as the rest of the world.

[Steelrails]

[stilicho25]

Point ceded (even from my 1st post) the guy filming is a dick. I doubt he was going crazy, but taunting someone based on their religious dietary habits is a total dick move.

Sorry to hear that the people from your hometown treat muslims badly. However, Mises link about the large scale sexual slavery of locals in England, and the scandal of gang rapes of native born Australians by Lebanese immigrants tempers my outrage. Of course I don't believe the muslim community should be punished for the actions of a few, but the cultural problem of disrespect towards the locals will engender a reaction from those locals.

My point on immigrants is this: They onus is on them to adapt to the culture they move to. Anything else is "imperialism". (usual caveats included, your still not allowed to kill and eat people, even if it is the local custom)

but anyway, I think I understand your point better which is that although the guy losing his mind obviously has a problem, the guy taping him is also acting irresponsibly. Is that correct?

[Steelrails]

[Captain Corea]

[young_clinton]

God I miss having a good Mcdonald's hamburger and fries. The McD's in SE Asia are total crap. I think its the oil they use to cook thier food.