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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| And, don't underestimate the budgeting of time at most universities. Most Korean profs don't want to have to read through even 100s of resume's, especially in a foreign language, regrardless of how good their English may be. |
Haha you think Korean profs do this job? In most of the jobs that foreigners can apply for, there is always a Mr. Lee or Ms. Jung that sifts through these things to find the 'most qualified'. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe that on the Hong Kong forums a poster who is in Japan now at a university was saying he was thinking of Hong Kong because his students don't really think about much. If I were teaching at a uni in Japan with his conditions I wouldn't even think of doing anything such as leaving.  |
Meh. That was my thinking before I got a job that was better than what I thought I could manage. I'm thankful for the opportunity but still, what I am really most thankful for was being able to jump to the front of the queue and see what it is actually like to work these kinds of jobs. I am eager to gtfo of here. Being surrounded by automatons is actually pretty distressing. My job is basically to shovel the English language into a black hole. It's frankly not very fulfilling.
My job is marginally less good than that of most of the braggarts posting in this thread. My qualifications are significantly, profoundly less good. Anyone can get lucky.
Year 3!! |
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Being surrounded by automatons is actually pretty distressing. My job is basically to shovel the English language into a black hole. It's frankly not very fulfilling.
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You need to be teaching creative English at uni!
Hmm, it seems to me now that uni jobs might very well be a case of 'Be careful what you wish for' unless you're somebody like naturegirl, tamada, and the other posters who teach academic credit courses. I'm over qualified for most run of the mill hagwons in one respect (I think there are a fair few hagwon foreign teachers who are unless it's an F visa position) but at least I have a blanket policy of not teaching kindy much as I was good at it in Japan.
Every schoolkid hagwon I've taught at has those kids who have so much energy and are funny that it's worthwhile. The scenario you outlined seems brain-eating at the best. |
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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha you think Korean profs do this job? In most of the jobs that foreigners can apply for, there is always a Mr. Lee or Ms. Jung that sifts through these things to find the 'most qualified'. |
Right on the nail there. In fact at one quite highly ranked uni in Seoul I saw the resume sifting job being given to the TA's who also didn't like doing it much. Put your qualification and picture at the top of your resume if you want to save everyone time.
I think it was also pointed out that there are huge differences in uni jobs. The most significant difference is often whether you are working for the uni institute or a department. Uni institutes will sometimes farm teachers out to departments, but at least in the old days, if your contract was with the institute, god help you if you tried to jump the fence into a dept. contract.
Years ago when the US embassy put out some warnings about teaching in Korea, most of the info they published was quite accurate. The only blunder they made was to state that uni institute jobs were reguarded as some of the most prestigious. Many uni institute jobs were worse that hagwons. At that time the embassy also downplayed uni department jobs in which I have experienced some of the best conditions ever - just watch out for politics. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Even with an easy as pie university job, living in Korea is depressing.  |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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When I first got here in the middle of 2007 I had full intentions of applying for a Uni job eventually
Since then the economy has flopped and Korea is now overwhelmed with applicants. Coupled with the fact that entry level Uni jobs usually pay very poor money.
With EPIK in a good location its not impossible to make close to 4 Mil a month. If you pay for your own apartment and your rent in advance for a year, which you get back via the key deposit
2.5 Salary
.4 housing
.8 extra classes
The extra holiday time in the better Uni jobs sounds nice and it would be. The downside is that I would spend too much money. I would have no problems teaching 2 extra classes a day to make the extra 800K a month. I'm not really interested in a superficial job title with less money or hours. Anything less than 40 hours actual work is basically easy.
Also, when you re-sign at PS you get an extra two weeks holiday which means 28 days a year, if you use those days wisely around Korean Public Holidays that means 6+ weeks a year, for example I'm in the Philippines on the 18th of January and return to school on the 7th of February (which is enough).
I do agree though that its different strokes for different folks though, also if the money was right I would definitley be kean on a Uni job. Personally though, I'm just out to save as much money as I can for my future endeavours. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Good case for PS. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Skyblue wrote: |
| Even with an easy as pie university job, living in Korea is depressing. |
I'm not depressed at the moment. I've got almost two months of vacation starting tomorrow!
It's easy to be optimistic at times like these. |
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