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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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The OP didn't even CLAIM it to be Korean kids... let alone that it's a Korean thing. |
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sulperman
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Probably 90% of my posts on daves are jumping on people for whining.... but I can totally relate to this. I sit by the door. The bastards in my small office sit on the other side, but I am right by the door. When they have a 10 minute conversation with somebody in the office from one foot behind me holding the door open the whole time my body may be freezing but my blood is boiling....
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: |
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I noticed this too, but used to always closing the door behind everyone, and wonder why anyone including kids would let the freezing cold in when we are all cold and want to be warm. Things we refer to as being common courtesy in consideration of others aren't observed over here. Vastly different culture. Why move out the way and close the door so others can be comfortable? It's quicker and easier to just be first and not close the door without thinking about the small stuff like being considerate of others around you. Herd mentality leaves the door open to the cold windy barnyard. |
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JeffersonDarcy2010
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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methdxman wrote: |
Yeah this is immensely annoying, but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere. |
Who said anything about it being specific to Korea? You are going nuts trying to save Korean face even where it's completely irrelevant. |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Globutron wrote: |
The OP didn't even CLAIM it to be Korean kids... let alone that it's a Korean thing. |
They're not Korean kids? So why did he translate it into Korean? Just for the heck of it?
And most responses with the exception of the first one were directed at BoholDiver. (Who said it happens more here.) Read the whole thread.... |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:58 am Post subject: |
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jrwhite82 wrote: |
Globutron wrote: |
The OP didn't even CLAIM it to be Korean kids... let alone that it's a Korean thing. |
They're not Korean kids? So why did he translate it into Korean? Just for the heck of it?
And most responses with the exception of the first one were directed at BoholDiver. (Who said it happens more here.) Read the whole thread.... |
No. I was responding to the first two posts, not the whole thread. I don't care about the whole thread.
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Put up a sign, asked then told the students in English, then in Korean.
There is literally a blast of cold air that comes in when the door is even
an inch ajar. It's making me mental.
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Yeah this is immensely annoying,but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere. |
As if to imply the OP implied it was only specific to Korea. Which he didn't/she didn't.
That is all. And yes, he could be teaching Korean to students international students or something. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I suppose ventilation is important-- nothing is worse than going from the fresh air outside onto a crowded bus where you're breathing other people's CO2... but then, buses don't seem to fit into that logic in Korea, even though it's a smaller, more crowded space than a classroom. I have to crack the window open sometimes, to avoid suffocating.
But then every day I get to school and the doors in the front and the back of the school have all been left wide open, effectively creating a wind tunnel on the first floor. I have no idea why they feel the need to do this when it's -6C out... especially since it isn't even a room where people are working-- all of the office doors are closed, so if it's ventilation, no one is benefitting from it. It's just this horrible cold space that I have to walk through in order to get to class. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:47 am Post subject: |
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JeffersonDarcy2010 wrote: |
methdxman wrote: |
Yeah this is immensely annoying, but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere. |
Who said anything about it being specific to Korea? You are going nuts trying to save Korean face even where it's completely irrelevant. |
It was a pre-emptive strike. In any case, don't act like it's irrelevant.
I'm not here to save Korean face. I'm here to defend intelligence and cultural awareness.
It's obvious that when someone comes on here to bitch about something that it will invariably turn into "Yeah, I've noticed that in Korea, kids tend to/people tend to" because most of these young ESL teachers are clueless about other cultures or living in another country.
Before you respond let me contradict myself:
Hey god dammit, I traveled ALL over the world, so I DEFINITELY know other cultures. Plus, I know ONE guy who is an ESL teacher and married a Korean guy so don't go generalizing about the teachers here. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Globutron wrote: |
jrwhite82 wrote: |
Globutron wrote: |
The OP didn't even CLAIM it to be Korean kids... let alone that it's a Korean thing. |
They're not Korean kids? So why did he translate it into Korean? Just for the heck of it?
And most responses with the exception of the first one were directed at BoholDiver. (Who said it happens more here.) Read the whole thread.... |
No. I was responding to the first two posts, not the whole thread. I don't care about the whole thread.
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Put up a sign, asked then told the students in English, then in Korean.
There is literally a blast of cold air that comes in when the door is even
an inch ajar. It's making me mental.
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Yeah this is immensely annoying,but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere. |
As if to imply the OP implied it was only specific to Korea. Which he didn't/she didn't.
That is all. And yes, he could be teaching Korean to students international students or something. |
Do you really believe that? Are you willing to bet me 50,000 KRW? Really? Or are you just trying to be a smart ass? |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:51 am Post subject: |
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methdxman wrote: |
Globutron wrote: |
jrwhite82 wrote: |
Globutron wrote: |
The OP didn't even CLAIM it to be Korean kids... let alone that it's a Korean thing. |
They're not Korean kids? So why did he translate it into Korean? Just for the heck of it?
And most responses with the exception of the first one were directed at BoholDiver. (Who said it happens more here.) Read the whole thread.... |
No. I was responding to the first two posts, not the whole thread. I don't care about the whole thread.
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Put up a sign, asked then told the students in English, then in Korean.
There is literally a blast of cold air that comes in when the door is even
an inch ajar. It's making me mental.
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Yeah this is immensely annoying,but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere. |
As if to imply the OP implied it was only specific to Korea. Which he didn't/she didn't.
That is all. And yes, he could be teaching Korean to students international students or something. |
Do you really believe that? Are you willing to bet me 50,000 KRW? Really? Or are you just trying to be a smart ass? |
Well I DID say 'he could be', as if to suggest an alternative (this means I was highlighting the fact that he did not point exclusively at Korea) so it should be pretty obvious I was/am being a smart ass. |
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loveless
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Location: love is a danger of a different kind...
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: |
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yea, it gets cold with the doors open but it really chills out with the windows open!  |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to embarrass Koreans into closing doors, just ask them: "Were you born with a tail." That can be effective.
I sit next to 2 doors (one into a freezing corridor). There's a hellova draft and the K teachers/students kept leaving the fricking door open. I was literally sitting in a cold draft, wearing a ski coat, scarf and russian hat, and they still didn't get it - even when I kept getting up to close the dam door after they left it open.
Snap! I asked a teacher what the problem with shutting the door was, and everyone got embarrassed, and my co-teacher quickly explained that I was in a draft - so no more problems from him.
But the old adjoshi mafia still leaves the door open sometimes. Never mind, only 32 days till enternal sun and heat.
good luck. |
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chellovek

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I managed to train the people in the office to shut the door, so it can be done. It took a few months of getting up and going to shut the door when somebody left it ajar, but now everyone shuts the door properly. |
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