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Korussian



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: . Reply with quote

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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

galbijim already exists and is exactly that.
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Korussian



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
galbijim already exists and is exactly that.


Galbijim is great, but it's much better for finding out stuff about places in Korea, and not so focussed on answering basic questions that crop up repeatedly.

If Galbijim was already the solution, then every time someone asks "where can I find an adapter", we'd just send them over to the Galbijim article.

Galbijim rocks, but not for this.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:
crossmr wrote:
galbijim already exists and is exactly that.


Galbijim is great, but it's much better for finding out stuff about places in Korea, and not so focussed on answering basic questions that crop up repeatedly.

If Galbijim was already the solution, then every time someone asks "where can I find an adapter", we'd just send them over to the Galbijim article.

Galbijim rocks, but not for this.


Funny. I see tons of articles about subjects other than places there, in fact a quick google search shows over 200 articles containing the phrase "how to" on glabijim, which seems to cover a wide range of common dave's questions, like ordering delivery food, getting a cell phone, etc. Seems to go far beyond finding a place.

If you think galbijim needs an article on finding adaptors you could start it. As for linking to it, galbijim seems to cover tons of things people ask on Dave's, but don't link to on a regular basis.

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=707&q=%22how+to%22+site%3Awiki.galbijim.com&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6a0673dc5c3f3912
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Korussian wrote:
crossmr wrote:
galbijim already exists and is exactly that.


Galbijim is great, but it's much better for finding out stuff about places in Korea, and not so focussed on answering basic questions that crop up repeatedly.

If Galbijim was already the solution, then every time someone asks "where can I find an adapter", we'd just send them over to the Galbijim article.

Galbijim rocks, but not for this.


Funny. I see tons of articles about subjects other than places there, in fact a quick google search shows over 200 articles containing the phrase "how to" on glabijim, which seems to cover a wide range of common dave's questions, like ordering delivery food, getting a cell phone, etc. Seems to go far beyond finding a place.

If you think galbijim needs an article on finding adaptors you could start it. As for linking to it, galbijim seems to cover tons of things people ask on Dave's, but don't link to on a regular basis.

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=707&q=%22how+to%22+site%3Awiki.galbijim.com&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6a0673dc5c3f3912


Unfortunately, doing a Google search like that is a bit misleading, since it gets a lot of false positives. Here's Galbijim's own "How to" category: http://wiki.galbijim.com/Category:How_to

It contains only 10 articles:
*How to buy computer parts online
*How to claim lost luggage
*How to make an international phone call
*How to order delivery service
*How to register on Cyworld
*How to rent a cellphone
*How to take the GRE in Korea
*How to text message in Korean
*How to use a computer in Korean
*How to watch NHL games in Korea

I'll bet we can do better!
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:

Unfortunately, doing a Google search like that is a bit misleading, since it gets a lot of false positives. Here's Galbijim's own "How to" category: http://wiki.galbijim.com/Category:How_to

It contains only 10 articles:
*How to buy computer parts online
*How to claim lost luggage
*How to make an international phone call
*How to order delivery service
*How to register on Cyworld
*How to rent a cellphone
*How to take the GRE in Korea
*How to text message in Korean
*How to use a computer in Korean
*How to watch NHL games in Korea

I'll bet we can do better!


Relying on category use on a volunteer project like that is even more misleading.

Google will give you all the pages that contain the phrase and might include how-to information. It is as well only one phrase and doesn't include other phrases which might also indicate there are how-to information on the page.

For example it doesn't include the article on:
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Finding_housing

A well established site already exists which does what you want and you haven't shown anything that goes above and beyond the feature set there.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:

*How to watch NHL games in Korea

I'll bet we can do better!


ahahahaha lol, shows you how many Canadians are in Korea... Laughing
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Korussian



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:

Relying on category use on a volunteer project like that is even more misleading.

Google will give you all the pages that contain the phrase and might include how-to information. It is as well only one phrase and doesn't include other phrases which might also indicate there are how-to information on the page.

For example it doesn't include the article on:
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Finding_housing

A well established site already exists which does what you want and you haven't shown anything that goes above and beyond the feature set there.


That's a good point. Okay, so let's make a feature wish list.

What is needed in a site to make it so that people want to write/edit articles that answer common questions about Korea, and then point newbies to those articles instead of repeating the same threads over and over.

1. Korrelation.info already has a kick-ass internal search. It doesn't rely on Google, but indexes its own articles and the tags associated with them. As you pointed out, we can't rely on users to categorize their own stuff, since some variation will always get missed.
2. I'm trying to make the adding/editing as streamlined as possible. There's no registration, ever. You just write a new article, and put your name/email/site at the end.
3. You get credit for writing stuff, so articles you write link back to your blog or wherever you choose. If you want to be anonymous, you just make up a name and/or email and/or site. There's no blacklist/verification.
4. ???

What else would make Korrelation better and more usable? What would you add to the feature set that goes above and beyond Galbijim?
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:
crossmr wrote:

Relying on category use on a volunteer project like that is even more misleading.

Google will give you all the pages that contain the phrase and might include how-to information. It is as well only one phrase and doesn't include other phrases which might also indicate there are how-to information on the page.

For example it doesn't include the article on:
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Finding_housing

A well established site already exists which does what you want and you haven't shown anything that goes above and beyond the feature set there.


That's a good point. Okay, so let's make a feature wish list.

What is needed in a site to make it so that people want to write/edit articles that answer common questions about Korea, and then point newbies to those articles instead of repeating the same threads over and over.

1. Korrelation.info already has a kick-ass internal search. It doesn't rely on Google, but indexes its own articles and the tags associated with them. As you pointed out, we can't rely on users to categorize their own stuff, since some variation will always get missed.
2. I'm trying to make the adding/editing as streamlined as possible. There's no registration, ever. You just write a new article, and put your name/email/site at the end.
3. You get credit for writing stuff, so articles you write link back to your blog or wherever you choose. If you want to be anonymous, you just make