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jamuraisack
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: how to call the authorities as a foreigner |
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hey guys,
i don't want to get into too many details but my friend has been continuously screwed over by the company he works for. On multiple occasions he has not been paid on time and they have not fulfilled what was signed in his contract e.g. key money, accomodation. anyways it seems that he has had enough and is leaving the country because his company refuses to sort out his visa. they continually say that they will take care of it but they don't. he is currently working on a tourist visa and does not feel comfortable doing so. also he is not the only teacher with this problem. anyways who should he or can he for that matter report to bust these douchebags? any advice would be appreciated thanks. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: Re: how to call the authorities as a foreigner |
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| jamuraisack wrote: |
hey guys,
i don't want to get into too many details but my friend has been continuously screwed over by the company he works for. On multiple occasions he has not been paid on time and they have not fulfilled what was signed in his contract e.g. key money, accomodation. anyways it seems that he has had enough and is leaving the country because his company refuses to sort out his visa. they continually say that they will take care of it but they don't. he is currently working on a tourist visa and does not feel comfortable doing so. also he is not the only teacher with this problem. anyways who should he or can he for that matter report to bust these douchebags? any advice would be appreciated thanks. |
he's screwed. he's an illegal and he has no leg to stand on in Korea. call the local mafia.
maybe he shouldn't have started working illegally in the first place.  |
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jamuraisack
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| actually he didn't start working here illegally. he was here on a completely legit visa but his company has taken to not sorting visas out in time and making the teachers leave the country and return on their own dollar. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:21 am Post subject: Re: how to call the authorities as a foreigner |
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| jamuraisack wrote: |
hey guys,
i don't want to get into too many details but my friend has been continuously screwed over by the company he works for. On multiple occasions he has not been paid on time and they have not fulfilled what was signed in his contract e.g. key money, accomodation. anyways it seems that he has had enough and is leaving the country because his company refuses to sort out his visa. they continually say that they will take care of it but they don't. he is currently working on a tourist visa and does not feel comfortable doing so. also he is not the only teacher with this problem. anyways who should he or can he for that matter report to bust these douchebags? any advice would be appreciated thanks. |
There is NOTHING he can do that won't land himself in even more hot water than his boss.
He has no legal status to file a claim (he has no legal status to work).
IF he complains to immigration then the employer will get fined and he will also be fined and/or detained or ordered out of Korea. It will also make it virtually impossible to work again in Korea without having to have a consular interview in his home country EVERY TIME he applies for a new E2.
He has no status to complain to NHIC/NPS/Labor about non coverage since he can't work legally (labor board) and has no ARC (medical/pension).
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jamuraisack
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| it's more a matter of can he or someone else anonymously report this company to the proper authorities to bring them down for all their shady business practices. like i said before he doesn't plan on working or ever coming back to korea. he's just going to leave the country without any notice to his company. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| I have no sympathy for illegal workers. They make us all look bad. Teaches him a lesson. Frankly, I'm a bit glad he got screwed, that way he's leaving and won't continue to give us a bad name. Good riddance. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| I have no sympathy for illegal workers. They make us all look bad. Teaches him a lesson. |
Some people get suckered into being illegal though even though they have no intention of being so.
A common situation is that your school says it will take 2 weeks to apply for a visa and that they want you to work in the meantime. In fact if you don't agree to work for them in the meantime, they will give the job to someone else who will because they need someone now. Jobs are scarce, you've had no other offers. Of course you take a gamble.
A month later they have your documents but still haven't applied for a visa. You're owed 2M won. Quitting means losing that money as well as your documents which will take another 2 months to re-order. It also means that you will have to leave the country as your tourist visa expires on your own dollar. As you have already spent 2 tourist visas in a row in the country, immigration will refuse to let you in on a third in succession. You will have to pay your own flight home as well.
So- things are not so black and white. Ultimately it is usually the fault of the recruiter or the crooked manager rather than the teacher. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| jamuraisack wrote: |
| actually he didn't start working here illegally. he was here on a completely legit visa but his company has taken to not sorting visas out in time and making the teachers leave the country and return on their own dollar. |
I don't understand this post. So he had a "legit" visa (E2?), then somehow he ended up leaving the country and working on a tourist visa?
Something doesn't add up....
Are you sure he HAD the legit visa? Having something in your physical possession and having something "lined up" are two completely different things. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| I have no sympathy for illegal workers. They make us all look bad. Teaches him a lesson. |
Some people get suckered into being illegal though even though they have no intention of being so.
A common situation is that your school says it will take 2 weeks to apply for a visa and that they want you to work in the meantime. In fact if you don't agree to work for them in the meantime, they will give the job to someone else who will because they need someone now. Jobs are scarce, you've had no other offers. Of course you take a gamble.
A month later they have your documents but still haven't applied for a visa. You're owed 2M won. Quitting means losing that money as well as your documents which will take another 2 months to re-order. It also means that you will have to leave the country as your tourist visa expires on your own dollar. As you have already spent 2 tourist visas in a row in the country, immigration will refuse to let you in on a third in succession. You will have to pay your own flight home as well.
So- things are not so black and white. Ultimately it is usually the fault of the recruiter or the crooked manager rather than the teacher. |
Don't take the job. Keep looking or go home. It's a stupid thing to do and you know it. You shouldn't be here in the first place if you don't have the backup cash to make it home. It is the fault of the teacher. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Don't take the job. Keep looking or go home. It's a stupid thing to do and you know it. You shouldn't be here in the first place if you don't have the backup cash to make it home. It is the fault of the teacher. |
If you'd never taken a job in Korea before and were relying on the advice of a "professional recruiter" and an employer in Korea, the whole "travel visa for the first month" thing might sound logical. I sincerely doubt the teacher had any idea of how twisted the situation would get.
Anyway, I'm sure the above posters were right that the teacher can't do anything about it. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| He was also stupid for not doing the necessary research on visas. I'm always shocked at how little people know about laws/visa rules/labor laws etc. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:58 am Post subject: Re: how to call the authorities as a foreigner |
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| jamuraisack wrote: |
| who should he or can he for that matter report to bust these douchebags?. |
Perhaps he should get video and documentary evidence together. Then post it to the police on his way to the airport. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| A common situation is that your school says it will take 2 weeks to apply for a visa and that they want you to work in the meantime. In fact if you don't agree to work for them in the meantime, they will give the job to someone else who will because they need someone now. Jobs are scarce, you've had no other offers. Of course you take a gamble |
This kind of happened to me with my first position. I thought I was going to be observing (unpaid), but was thrust into teaching pretty much immediately, with all my documents already in their hands. What was I supposed to do? I was pretty sure I wouldn't get all the documents back if I were to bail on the job, which would basically make it impossible to get another job. Thankfully, they did get me my visa after a couple weeks, but I was essentially forced into a really bad situation for a little bit, and one that I didn't know how to get out of. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
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BACK ON TOPIC...
Like tommpatz said, game over.
IF he wanted to do something, yes, he could report the place to immigration IF there are other people working their illegally. Immigration enjoys a good bust every now and again. BUT, it would only be worthwhile if there are other people there AND he could get snared up too, even if he does this on his way to the airport. Plus, he'd be getting other people in trouble, who may or may not be in a situation as Junior described OR may be scumbag illegals that should be hung from the highest branch.
BUT, ON TOPIC, sure, he could report them on his way out of town. |
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