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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: Working for Chung Dahm April? |
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I have a very promising job offer with an excellent location in Seoul.
That being said, the contract mentions a training session, possibility of working on a weekend day, etc.
Does anybody have experience with working at one of these institutes? Can you give me insight into training, what the accomodations are like, work atmosphere, workload, etc?
I would be much obliged. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Are you having a laugh? |
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, but not about the subject of my thread.
Why, something wrong with the school? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I had the impression you�d been on these forums a while. CDI has had so many threads about it over the years, people tend to treat it as a joke when it comes up again. The threads usually go along the same lines. Half the people think they�re unscrupulous slave drivers and the rest say they�re ok, you can earn more money but they don�t tolerate slackers etc.. |
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I hear that there are a bunch of different programs and what-not, but the April program is for younger kids.
It's just that the location for this one is A#1 and the director sounded nice on the phone. There are a few things about it that seem sketchy though.
Basically, if the apartment's nice then I'm willing to overlook some other stuff because the location is good and the hours are good, but nobody takes my weekends from me unless they take my life, so if that's the case then I'm not working for them. |
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chellovek

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
Sorry, I had the impression you�d been on these forums a while. |
Bald cometh to these forums to troll nerds and exalt caddishness! |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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where to begin?
no pension,
no medical
no housing (they will loan you the key money).
no guaranteed salary (assuming you take the hourly plan)
no severance
higher tax rates
no holidays
no guarantee of a job after you arrive. It sucks to have an E2, paid your airfare and get fired before you start. It is a lot of cash to lay out and be stuck 1/2 way round the world and have to try to get a new job and work out a new visa (while arranging new documents).
What is wrong with CDI covers about 900 threads over the last 9 years.
ASKED and ANSWERED many times over.
Seeing that your thread was coming from someone who has been registered here for over a year I first thought it was either a troll or a joke.
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I finally find the perfect location and it turns out to be a paper tiger.
For the record, this one pays a monthly salary and gives me apartment, pension, medical, etc, but it has me registered as an independant contractor, which is no good. You're right, that training is crap.
It would be in Sinchon.... But that's not worth all the potential crap.
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Bald cometh to these forums to troll nerds and exalt caddishness! |
Haha sometimes I talk about what music I hate too. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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but nobody takes my weekends from me unless they take my life |
Ha ha, what you really mean is you wouldn�t spend your weekend babysitting little kids for 30,000 an hour.. Most people in the real world would sacrifice the occasional Saturday in a flash if they were doing a job they loved and getting a decent wage. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
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but nobody takes my weekends from me unless they take my life |
Ha ha, what you really mean is you wouldn�t spend your weekend babysitting little kids for 30,000 an hour.. Most people in the real world would sacrifice the occasional Saturday in a flash if they were doing a job they loved and getting a decent wage. |
The "weekend" is a relative term. If you don't work Tuesday and Wednesday for example, then that is your weekend. This only makes sense in context of a 6th day workday, where the other 5 days you aren't working a normal load or you are getting some overtime.
As far as babysitting, this is not the same as "doing a job [one] love[s] and getting a decent wage" when the job title specifically states "teacher" in the contract as the employee. Leave babysitting to the babysitters, teaching to the teachers.
I don't think any teacher would stick around long if the school told them to clean toilets, just on the premise the teaching side is enjoyable. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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BaldTeacher wrote: |
I finally find the perfect location and it turns out to be a paper tiger.
For the record, this one pays a monthly salary and gives me apartment, pension, medical, etc, but it has me registered as an independant contractor, which is no good. You're right, that training is crap.
It would be in Sinchon.... But that's not worth all the potential crap.
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Bald cometh to these forums to troll nerds and exalt caddishness! |
Haha sometimes I talk about what music I hate too. |
If you are registered as an independent contractor you will NOT get pension or medical (in-spite of what you may have been told) and you WILL be taxed at the higher rate (3.3-5%).
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
BaldTeacher wrote: |
I finally find the perfect location and it turns out to be a paper tiger.
For the record, this one pays a monthly salary and gives me apartment, pension, medical, etc, but it has me registered as an independant contractor, which is no good. You're right, that training is crap.
It would be in Sinchon.... But that's not worth all the potential crap.
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Bald cometh to these forums to troll nerds and exalt caddishness! |
Haha sometimes I talk about what music I hate too. |
If you are registered as an independent contractor you will NOT get pension or medical (in-spite of what you may have been told) and you WILL be taxed at the higher rate (3.3-5%).
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Really? Because my friend works at CDI April and she gets pension and medical |
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IncheonTOEFL
Joined: 05 Jan 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:05 am Post subject: |
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CDI proper doesn't pay into the pension scheme.
CDI April seems to, hit or miss.
CDI proper has you work red days.
CDI April doesn't seem to, hit or miss.
CDI April is like any other elementary hagwon; Pagoda Kids, Avalon, SLP, TOPIA, etc.
With big names hagwons, the individual franchise owner will determine how good you have it re: pension, NHI, national holidays, vacation, breaks, books, etc.
The exceptions are LCI and Wonderland. Those are bad kindys that have held their bad reputations throughout the peninsula for almost a decade. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:00 am Post subject: |
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3DR wrote: |
Really? Because my friend works at CDI April and she gets pension and medical |
So she is classed as an employee then (also a regular monthly salary I would wager rather than a fee per class).
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody have any positive stories about CD April? I'll post my contract in the contract thread. It says that I'm an independant contractor, but says that I'll get pension and medical, plus a monthly salary. |
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