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millyfrend
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Just contact a notary and state SOS. They know the rules and regulations. They should know what is accepted or not as they've done many notaries and apostilles.
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Huh?
Did you even read what I said in the first post? I said, you can have a friend or family do it (free). How is that a scam?
Plus I never said to make a copy of the Federal Document. I said to use the real document, but attach it with a notary. Thank god everything is still there on the thread, so you don't put words in my mouth.
Also, I said to call your SOS to double check.
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You're right, you didn't say it, vetter used the word "copy." But you never answered MY question. What would a notary say? They cannot notarize that it is an authentic FBI check because they don't know that. They cannot notarize that the signature of the FBI is authentic, because they don't know that. What statement would you have attached to an original FBI background check? |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| millyfrend wrote: |
Just contact a notary and state SOS. They know the rules and regulations. They should know what is accepted or not as they've done many notaries and apostilles.
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| millyfrend wrote: |
Huh?
Did you even read what I said in the first post? I said, you can have a friend or family do it (free). How is that a scam?
Plus I never said to make a copy of the Federal Document. I said to use the real document, but attach it with a notary. Thank god everything is still there on the thread, so you don't put words in my mouth.
Also, I said to call your SOS to double check.
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You're right, you didn't say it, vetter used the word "copy." But you never answered MY question. What would a notary say? They cannot notarize that it is an authentic FBI check because they don't know that. They cannot notarize that the signature of the FBI is authentic, because they don't know that. What statement would you have attached to an original FBI background check? |
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I don't need to. I've made a claim that is backed up with evidence from the states. You've no evidence disproving it. Vetter claims that he got his FBI check apostilled with a COPY with a state notary on it. I believe him, but doing so circumvents the rules. From what you've written, it seems to me that you're idea is the same thing as vetter, sans a copy. Still a scam.
No one has yet to show me a Federal check, with a state apostille that certifies that the FBI signature is valid. Until someone can show me that, I stand by my statement. You want to prove I'm wrong or that you're right, let's see some evidence. The onus is on you. |
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millyfrend
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Read my thread again. I'm not here to prove anyone right or wrong. I said that too. I just ask the OP or anyone to contact a notary and state SOS to find out the real details as they should know. It's their job. I'm sure they've done many apostilles. And like I said, I know what you're staying about a "chain of authentication", but I also said, that's not how the government works because it creates inconvenience for people. Your backup are from not-up-to date websites. Call the SOS to be more up to date.
Nothing more to say. Only the notary and SOS would know what's right or wrong and it's up to people to find that out. They can simply call the SOS or their local notaries.
Have a great day Nathan.
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| millyfrend wrote: |
Just contact a notary and state SOS. They know the rules and regulations. They should know what is accepted or not as they've done many notaries and apostilles.
| nathanrutledge wrote: |
| millyfrend wrote: |
Huh?
Did you even read what I said in the first post? I said, you can have a friend or family do it (free). How is that a scam?
Plus I never said to make a copy of the Federal Document. I said to use the real document, but attach it with a notary. Thank god everything is still there on the thread, so you don't put words in my mouth.
Also, I said to call your SOS to double check.
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You're right, you didn't say it, vetter used the word "copy." But you never answered MY question. What would a notary say? They cannot notarize that it is an authentic FBI check because they don't know that. They cannot notarize that the signature of the FBI is authentic, because they don't know that. What statement would you have attached to an original FBI background check? |
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I don't need to. I've made a claim that is backed up with evidence from the states. You've no evidence disproving it. Vetter claims that he got his FBI check apostilled with a COPY with a state notary on it. I believe him, but doing so circumvents the rules. From what you've written, it seems to me that you're idea is the same thing as vetter, sans a copy. Still a scam.
No one has yet to show me a Federal check, with a state apostille that certifies that the FBI signature is valid. Until someone can show me that, I stand by my statement. You want to prove I'm wrong or that you're right, let's see some evidence. The onus is on you. |
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SeoulESLteacher09
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I emailed my school and told them I was having problems.
I asked: There's no way to get a notary sign an affidavit and send it to the Secretary of State? Can you make an exception?
She said:No. The FBI is certifying their documents now and therefore, it must be sent to the US Department of State.
So I emailed my school to tell them I was having problems and I get this response:
I contacted our recruiting agency today. They said that if you have the fbi check, you don�t have to get new one. The only thing you have to is you go to Secretary of State and get an apostille. Also they mention that all the process is being updated in SC State government website. That�s what I heard from our agency.
I don't understand why the Secretary of State cannot give an apostille
So what do they know that the person at the secretary of state doesn't know?? I've already had it rejected one time.... |
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SeoulESLteacher09
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="millyfrend"]Just contact a notary and state SOS. They know the rules and regulations. They should know what is accepted or not as they've done many notaries and apostilles.
[quote="nathanrutledge"][quote="millyfrend"]
I have contacted the SOS and they said NO, but my school is telling me to send it to the SOS....I know it will get rejected! |
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millyfrend
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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The person at the SOS is probably a new person. Try again.
My friend had a problem at the Chinese consulate once. He had everything in order and the Chinese consulate rejected his documents. He followed everything on their site and the guy at the Chinese consulate still rejected his documents. The next day he came back, same docs but went to a different person and everything was accepted. Sometimes, you have to speak with a manager or someone different.
After you get your apostille, then to make sure it doesn't get rejected in South Korea, scan the documents and show/email it to your recruiter. If they accept that, you're good. Then you can give them the real copies.
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I emailed my school and told them I was having problems.
I asked: There's no way to get a notary sign an affidavit and send it to the Secretary of State? Can you make an exception?
She said:No. The FBI is certifying their documents now and therefore, it must be sent to the US Department of State.
So I emailed my school to tell them I was having problems and I get this response:
I contacted our recruiting agency today. They said that if you have the fbi check, you don�t have to get new one. The only thing you have to is you go to Secretary of State and get an apostille. Also they mention that all the process is being updated in SC State government website. That�s what I heard from our agency.
I don't understand why the Secretary of State cannot give an apostille
So what do they know that the person at the secretary of state doesn't know?? I've already had it rejected one time.... |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm just curious did you request the seal and signature official when you sent in for the FBI check?
Some people have reported getting a US dept. of state Apostille with out the seal and signature. Who knows. |
No one explained the process in detail to me so I didn't know that I needed a seal and signature.
I need a definate answer...I don't have time to send it in and get it sent back..
everything is processed way too slow and doesnt work for people who need it immediately.... |
The information is there, you just didn't look hard enough for it.
This post implies that its OUR fault we didn't explain it to you. Geez, maybe if you didn't have such a self-entitled attitude you wouldn't be in your predicament right now. |
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SeoulESLteacher09
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
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| Riker wrote: |
I'm just curious did you request the seal and signature official when you sent in for the FBI check?
Some people have reported getting a US dept. of state Apostille with out the seal and signature. Who knows. |
No one explained the process in detail to me so I didn't know that I needed a seal and signature.
I need a definate answer...I don't have time to send it in and get it sent back..
everything is processed way too slow and doesnt work for people who need it immediately.... |
The information is there, you just didn't look hard enough for it.
This post implies that its OUR fault we didn't explain it to you. Geez, maybe if you didn't have such a self-entitled attitude you wouldn't be in your predicament right now. |
I never said it was anyone's fault on this forum. I'm just trying to see if anyone else is having the same trouble and what worked for them.
The first time I got a Visa it was easy. Then they changed the regulations in September. I was in a rush to start the process in October since I read it could take up to 4 months for a background check. I've never had to get a FBI background check so I didn't know that I should request a seal or signature. I was going off of previous experience. Last time I just got a state check and sent it in.
I'm just saying I couldn't find detailed instructions of the process when I started it in October. The new regulations had just started so who would have I asked? |
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millyfrend
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah just ask the forum, no worries. That's what the forum is for. |
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SeoulESLteacher09
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Even after enclosing a letter requesting for the official signature and seal from the FBI, they forgot to do it. I immediately called the FBI. They had me return the original to them . They singed and sealed it and sent it back. This took about 1 week. I then made a copy of it and went to a notary public in my state. I signed the copy and had the notary notarize it. I then took the original along with my notarized copy to my secretary of state. They apostilled this all for me. It all took a little more than a week. Korea recieved it 3 days later. |
I finally decided that sending it back to the FBI was probably my only option.
They sent it back in 1 week?
I sent it in by express mail hoping to get it back sooner, but I called today and they said 2-3 weeks. |
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St8ofTheArt
Joined: 02 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| I live in Ohio, and I don't mind traveling so within the next few days I was going to make the hike to DC to expedite the process myself. But I just called the Ohio SOS and asked him about getting an FBI check apostilled. He said that I first have to get it notarized, then certified by the Clerk of Courts office and then it can be apostilled in Ohio. I'll keep posted on if this procedure gets me to Korea without any hassle. |
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