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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| red_devil wrote: |
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백반정식 has rice, soup and a number of side dishes and usually some fish or maybe meat (sometimes costs extra for the meat). There's plenty of vegetables and other good stuff. There should be a good variety (well, at least as far as Korean food is concerned).
I often go to one of these places for lunch and always have the standard rice-sou-fish(meat instead of fish once a week) with 7 more side dishes, all I want to eat for 5,000 won. There's usually something fried, a kimchi or 2, fish cakes, steamed vegetables, scallion pancake, egg, salad, etc. |
It's basically mass processed cafeteria food. It's not usually good quality at all. It's great for a quick cheap eat, but i wouldn't recommend that to the OP.
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You're going to the wrong places, then. |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| DorkothyParker wrote: |
Daenjang chigae. (bean paste stew).
Diner (orange place, as we called it) stews and soups are usually pretty inexpensive and super filling.
Don't eat the rice! |
Daenjang chigae is loaded with salt. That's why you're so thirsty after eating it.
White rice is just empty carbohydrates (very high calories) with no nutritional value.
Korean food isn't all that healthy when you look at it objectively. |
Compared to what? American food? If you select a specific dish and pick it apart i'm sure you can find flaws. Overall though Korean food is much more healthy than a lot of other countries. "Empty Carbs" can be said for most pasta and breads as well. |
It's not a comparison, its an objective evaluation. 'Korean food' might be better than American fast food but overall western grocery stores have a a greater variety of healthy things.
White rice is high glycemic and has little to offer in terms of nutrients and gijae is full of salt.
OP, Do yourself a favour and buy some quinoa and oats. Oats for breakfast and qunioa as your carb in other meals. You can get quinoa at www.iherb.com. Combine your oats with fresh fruits (banana and strawberry, and your quinoa with lean meats and veggies. |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Daenjang chigae is loaded with salt. That's why you're so thirsty after eating it.
White rice is just empty carbohydrates (very high calories) with no nutritional value.
Korean food isn't all that healthy when you look at it objectively. |
I don't count salt because I am a water/tea addict and I drink about 2-3 gallons a day. I think my sodium intake evens it out in the long run.
I think salt is only unhealthy if you have high blood pressure or are older, which I don't and I'm not. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Seriously? You consume 2-3 gallons? How is that possible. I'm trying to increase how much water I consume, but I haven't made it past 1.5 gallons. Even then, I'm in the bathroom way too much. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| NSMatt wrote: |
| red_devil wrote: |
| carleverson wrote: |
| DorkothyParker wrote: |
Daenjang chigae. (bean paste stew).
Diner (orange place, as we called it) stews and soups are usually pretty inexpensive and super filling.
Don't eat the rice! |
Daenjang chigae is loaded with salt. That's why you're so thirsty after eating it.
White rice is just empty carbohydrates (very high calories) with no nutritional value.
Korean food isn't all that healthy when you look at it objectively. |
Compared to what? American food? If you select a specific dish and pick it apart i'm sure you can find flaws. Overall though Korean food is much more healthy than a lot of other countries. "Empty Carbs" can be said for most pasta and breads as well. |
It's not a comparison, its an objective evaluation. 'Korean food' might be better than American fast food but overall western grocery stores have a a greater variety of healthy things.
White rice is high glycemic and has little to offer in terms of nutrients and gijae is full of salt.
OP, Do yourself a favour and buy some quinoa and oats. Oats for breakfast and qunioa as your carb in other meals. You can get quinoa at www.iherb.com. Combine your oats with fresh fruits (banana and strawberry, and your quinoa with lean meats and veggies. |
There's nothing remotely objective about anything you've said. 'Korean food' is definitely healthier than American food, fast or no. Are you seriously comparing Western grocery stores to Asian ones now based on "variety of healthy things"? As i said, unless you're gonna go completely vegan, eat peanuts for protein and pop a handful of vitamin pills and eat nothing processed for the rest of your life in a pointless pursuit of achieving this "healthy nirvana" you wax on about...just eat Korean food and stay away from the Western food and you'll be fine. Seeing as the majority of Koreans are thinner and have healthier levels of cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure and body fat than most of the Western continent, and even IF you say Koreans have higher salt intake, hell 4/5 ain't bad. |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| Seriously? You consume 2-3 gallons? How is that possible. I'm trying to increase how much water I consume, but I haven't made it past 1.5 gallons. Even then, I'm in the bathroom way too much. |
I drink (equivalent) of a normal water bottle when I wake up. I drink same amount in plain water and green tea before my first class. I drink one bottle in each class (x . This is sometimes water, sometimes green tea. Usually I have a bonus green tea after lunch. At home, I drink less since I have to pay for it. Usually only 1 water bottle of plain water, and just 4 or 5 cups of hot decaf tea. For hot tea I just use boiled tap water.
Sooooooooo.
16.9oz x 13 = 202.8 oz + 40 (for the decaf)
259.7 oz total
Oh, I guess it's just barely 2 gallons. I should work on that... |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| White rice is high glycemic and has little to offer in terms of nutrients... |
Very true. The white rice Koreans eat these days (and have misplaced pride about) comes from the Philippines thanks to President Park Chung-hee's insistence on higher yield crops than was provided by the more nutritious traditional darker rice.
And the radiated instant noodles Koreans wolf down is unhealthy fast food that is nothing like the traditionally made noodle dishes (eg., kalguksu) in terms of nutrition.
And yet white rice and ramyeon are held up by Koreans as symbols of nationalistic pride. Absurd! Such unhealthy foods are not good for the nation.
And don't get me started about the petroleum swill sold as "soju" these days compared to the traditional alcoholic beverages. |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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There's nothing remotely objective about anything you've said. 'Korean food' is definitely healthier than American food, fast or no. Are you seriously comparing Western grocery stores to Asian ones now based on "variety of healthy things"? As i said, unless you're gonna go completely vegan, eat peanuts for protein and pop a handful of vitamin pills and eat nothing processed for the rest of your life in a pointless pursuit of achieving this "healthy nirvana" you wax on about...just eat Korean food and stay away from the Western food and you'll be fine. Seeing as the majority of Koreans are thinner and have healthier levels of cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure and body fat than most of the Western continent, and even IF you say Koreans have higher salt intake, hell 4/5 ain't bad. |
You were the one who set up the straw man by comparing Korean to American and then stating that this makes Korean food healthy. If you're going to compare Korean food to the worst case scenario (American fast food) then I guess it can be considered healthy. But when we contrast Western fresh food with Korean fresh food then its obvious that K food just doesn't offer balanced nutrition - whether you want to admit it or not.
It's fairly easy to look at the 4 major food groups and see which ones are satisfied by the average Korean diet. Whole grains are almost unheard of, the selection of vegetables IS more limited than in the west and many of those that are available in restaurants are preserved/vinegared/salted. Meats are a toss up and there isn't much to speak off in terms of dairy.
Westerners might choose to eat unhealthy things, but that doesn't make Korean food any better. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Red Devil, are you going to reply to NSMatt?  |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: |
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DorothyParker, I think it�s great that you�re drinking all of those liquids~ that is so awesome! I know that I need to drink more water and tea. Concerning the salt, I would suggest that you use sea salt, instead, (as it is much more nutritious.) BTW, what kind of caffeine free tea are you drinking? Thanks.
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| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| Seriously? You consume 2-3 gallons? How is that possible. I'm trying to increase how much water I consume, but I haven't made it past 1.5 gallons. Even then, I'm in the bathroom way too much. |
I drink (equivalent) of a normal water bottle when I wake up. I drink same amount in plain water and green tea before my first class. I drink one bottle in each class (x. This is sometimes water, sometimes green tea. Usually I have a bonus green tea after lunch. At home, I drink less since I have to pay for it. Usually only 1 water bottle of plain water, and just 4 or 5 cups of hot decaf tea. For hot tea I just use boiled tap water.
Sooooooooo.
16.9oz x 13 = 202.8 oz + 40 (for the decaf)
259.7 oz total
Oh, I guess it's just barely 2 gallons. I should work on that... |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:10 am Post subject: |
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OP, Do yourself a favour and buy some quinoa and oats. Oats for breakfast and qunioa as your carb in other meals. You can get quinoa at www.iherb.com. Combine your oats with fresh fruits (banana and strawberry, and your quinoa with lean meats and veggies. |
NSMatt is right about iHerb.com. I order from there all the time now. Low shipping rates and super fast service. I ordered 3 days ago and online tracking says it will be delivered tomorrow.
You can also get a $5 discount on your first order if you use this code when you order: COC920
They serve an international clientele and their website let's one choose between English, Korean, Spanish, and Chinese. Pretty good.
Cheers.
PS. Every time i order from them, I add a jar of organic peanut butter to the order and the peanut butter (shipping included) is about half the amount that a jar of organic peanut butter costs at EMart. Yum.
PPS. I've been paying with a debit card based on an account back in the US, but I recently inquired and they said I could use my Samsung Visa Credit Card if I want, so I used that on my most recent order. |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Home Plus has a restaurant in the middle of the store where you can get Udong for 3500 Won. |
pure salt! |
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lonestarteacher
Joined: 09 Jan 2011
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
DorothyParker, I think it�s great that you�re drinking all of those liquids~ that is so awesome! I know that I need to drink more water and tea. Concerning the salt, I would suggest that you use sea salt, instead, (as it is much more nutritious.) BTW, what kind of caffeine free tea are you drinking? Thanks.
| DorkothyParker wrote: |
| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| Seriously? You consume 2-3 gallons? How is that possible. I'm trying to increase how much water I consume, but I haven't made it past 1.5 gallons. Even then, I'm in the bathroom way too much. |
I drink (equivalent) of a normal water bottle when I wake up. I drink same amount in plain water and green tea before my first class. I drink one bottle in each class (x. This is sometimes water, sometimes green tea. Usually I have a bonus green tea after lunch. At home, I drink less since I have to pay for it. Usually only 1 water bottle of plain water, and just 4 or 5 cups of hot decaf tea. For hot tea I just use boiled tap water.
Sooooooooo.
16.9oz x 13 = 202.8 oz + 40 (for the decaf)
259.7 oz total
Oh, I guess it's just barely 2 gallons. I should work on that... |
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I too have to agree with what has been said about increasing liquid consumption. There are numerous benefits to drinking copious amounts of green tea and water. It clears the body of toxins and keeps the normal bodily functions, functioning. I keep a 3 gallon container of tea available and have to refill it every other day plus water consumption. It is a blend of green tea, black tea, and a acai berry/ginseng tea that I naturally sweeten with honey. It is invigorating the amount of energy that a person can gain through just a drink that isn't Mountain Dew. |
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jamal0000
Joined: 11 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Tofu is the only really cheap protein. I guess i need to learn recipes to make it taste good.
I'm still shocked by how even chicken is about 4 times (400%) the price it is back home in the states (I guess the fact that a lot of the chicken is imported 7000 miles here from my home state has something to do with that.)
This foot and mouth disease is a real bummer, and I wonder how long it will take to pass? To raise all those millions of animals again.... won't it take years? |
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lonestarteacher
Joined: 09 Jan 2011
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Tofu is the only really cheap protein. I guess i need to learn recipes to make it taste good.
I'm still shocked by how even chicken is about 4 times (400%) the price it is back home in the states (I guess the fact that a lot of the chicken is imported 7000 miles here from my home state has something to do with that.)
This foot and mouth disease is a real bummer, and I wonder how long it will take to pass? To raise all those millions of animals again.... won't it take years? |
Tofu comes in different firmnesses. If you use a medium soft variety and dip in beaten egg then with panko bread crumbs it create a nice mozzarella stick that you can eat for the protein. Also mixing in some herbs into the bread crumbs creates a nice flavor profile.
Soaking a firmer tofu in olive oil that has been soaked with various herbs and spices also adds a nice flavor too it. |
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