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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Globutron wrote:
interestedinhanguk wrote:
Globutron wrote:
interestedinhanguk wrote:
It kills me when people use literally when they should say figuratively, figuratively.

I am also bothered by the use of the non-word irregardless.

I wish people would understand the difference between resign and re-sign.


Does inflammable and flammable irritate you then? Technically there's only need for one, they mean exactly the same thing


They do not mean exactly the same thing, though there is overlap. Flammable strictly refers to being easily set on fire. Inflammable can mean that or also be used in a figurative sense.


Source? I'm pretty certain they're identical in meaning. I even know the story behind why...


Aren't you special? I just googled it myself and saw the story. I was going by dictionary.com in my post. Frankly, I don't really care. This was a question about what one is bothered by, and I don't hear this one enough, nor do I think about it. Therefore I am not bothered by it.


http://www.write101.com/W.Tips215.htm
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread about this just recently.

Typical annoying mistakes:

loose for lose
everyday for every day
definately for definitely
wierd for weird
you're for your or vice versa
etc
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Globutron wrote:
Does inflammable and flammable irritate you then? Technically there's only need for one, they mean exactly the same thing


They do not mean exactly the same thing, though there is overlap. Flammable strictly refers to being easily set on fire. Inflammable can mean that or also be used in a figurative sense.


You're not thinking of 'inflammatory', are you? In what figurative sense do we use 'inflammable'?
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the article that I posted that you didn't read:

Blame it on Latin and its tricky prefixes. In the beginning, there was "inflammable," a perfectly nice English word based on the Latin "inflammare," meaning "to kindle," from "in" (in) plus "flamma" (flame). "Inflammable" became standard English in the 16th century. So far, so good.

Comes the 19th century, and some well-meaning soul dreamt up the word "flammable," basing it on a slightly different Latin word, "flammare," meaning "to set on fire." There was nothing terribly wrong with "flammable," but it never really caught on. After all, we already had "inflammable," so "flammable" pretty much died out in the 1800's.

"But wait," you say, "I saw 'flammable' just the other day." Indeed you did. "Flammable" came back, one of the few successful instances of social engineering of language.

The Latin prefix "in," while it sometimes means just "in" (as in "inflammable"), more often turns up in English words meaning "not" (as in "invisible" -- "not visible"). After World War Two, safety officials on both sides of the Atlantic decided that folks were too likely to see "inflammable" and decide that the word meant "fireproof," so various agencies set about encouraging the revival of "flammable" as a substitute. The campaign seems to have worked, and "inflammable" has all but disappeared.

That left what to call something that was not likely to burst into flames, but here the process of linguistic renovation was easier. "Non-flammable" is a nice, comforting word, and besides, it's far easier on the tongue than its now thankfully obsolete precursor, "non-inflammable."

The Oxford English Dictionary adds this usage note: Historically, flammable and inflammable mean the same thing. However, the presence of the prefix in- has misled many people into assuming that inflammable means "not flammable" or "noncombustible." The prefix -in in inflammable is not, however, the Latin negative prefix -in, which is related to the English -un and appears in such words as indecent and inglorious. Rather, this -in is an intensive prefix derived from the Latin preposition in. This prefix also appears in the word enflame. But many people are not aware of this derivation, and for clarity's sake it is advisable to use only flammable to give warnings.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
From the article that I posted that you didn't read:

blahblahblah


Yes, I'm aware of all that but I asked in what figurative sense 'inflammable' is used. One poster said the two words are not exactly the same, because one of them carries a figurative meaning that the other doesn't. That is the point I was querying.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
From the article that I posted that you didn't read:

blahblahblah


Yes, I'm aware of all that but I asked in what figurative sense 'inflammable' is used. One poster said the two words are not exactly the same, because one of them carries a figurative meaning that the other doesn't. That is the point I was querying.


Ah. My mistake. I haven't had my morning cuppa yet. My sincerest apologies.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its always weird seeing apologies online
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Privateer wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
From the article that I posted that you didn't read:

blahblahblah


Yes, I'm aware of all that but I asked in what figurative sense 'inflammable' is used. One poster said the two words are not exactly the same, because one of them carries a figurative meaning that the other doesn't. That is the point I was querying.


Ah. My mistake. I haven't had my morning cuppa yet. My sincerest apologies.


That's quite alright.

Globutron wrote:
its always weird seeing apologies online


People being civil on the internet. What is going on?!
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shifter2009



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Privateer wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
From the article that I posted that you didn't read:

blahblahblah


Yes, I'm aware of all that but I asked in what figurative sense 'inflammable' is used. One poster said the two words are not exactly the same, because one of them carries a figurative meaning that the other doesn't. That is the point I was querying.


Ah. My mistake. I haven't had my morning cuppa yet. My sincerest apologies.


That's quite alright.

Globutron wrote:
its always weird seeing apologies online


People being civil on the internet. What is going on?!


I waiting still to find out which one of you guys is the nazis in this instance....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha yes, I remember this. Hitlerious.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifter2009 wrote:

I waiting still to find out which one of you guys is the nazis in this instance....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


Sighs.
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Poker



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My English is nothing to brag about but I am still quite surprised by some of the examples given in this thread. Some of these mistakes are elementary level Confused Loose for lose?!? Jeeezz...
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate it when people write noone. Noone? Wasn't he the guy who sang that '60s song "Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Pregnant Daughter"? It's no one.
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Jane



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When people fail to add a space before a parenthesis(just like this).
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fromtheuk



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dislike seeing the word independent as 'independant'.
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