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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:32 am Post subject: Re: UFC: KIM wants GSP |
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| ekimswish wrote: |
| I always cheered for Kim Dong Hyun, but the guy is a lifetime away from a fight with GSP or even winning it. For him to call out GSP is as dumb |
I'd rather see GDP fight the Korean Zombie (Chan-sung Jung) than KDH. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Bwing a big money draw and Dana White thinking Brock could actually win, which he did.
It is more realistic than WWE wrestling from a booking perspective, but it's still a business.
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| rumdiary wrote: |
| I'm not debating whether or not they deserved a title shot. All I'm saying is that a fighters popularity is as important as their record. A popular fighter can get a title shot after only one or two wins while many other worthy fighters have to work much longer and harder to get one. Kim isn't expecting the next shot but by keeping people talking about him he will become more popular. |
Well, yeah, otherwise how do you explain Brock Lesnar getting a title shot with a 2-1 record in MMA and a 1-1 record in the UFC? |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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It's hardly surprising that those with a larger fan base get the more fights, its all about revenue and pay for view.
The same thing happens in all forms of pay per view fighting, its just good business sense.
Good on Kim for putting his name out there. He'll have people hating him and people liking him, either way its good for his profile. Some people will watch to see him getting dealt too, others will be supporting him.
Damn I haven't watched UFC for ages... |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I for one am a stun gun supporter and I thought it was great that he got his name out there even if he was lacking tact.
I was disappointed however with his cardio. The guy is in good shape and there was no excuse for gassing like that in the 2nd round. He was lucky with that win over Diaz IMO. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| misher wrote: |
I was disappointed however with his cardio. The guy is in good shape and there was no excuse for gassing like that in the 2nd round. He was lucky with that win over Diaz IMO. |
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think you can say some one with poor cardio is in "good shape". In fact, cardio is one of the main criteria used to judge the shape an athlete is in. To be sure, poor cardio can often negate superior skills.
As the great Vince Lombardi said when he was putting his team through conditioning drills, "fatigue makes cowards of us all". |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Kim has some excellent takedowns and some very good controll on the ground. He is very strong and I think he has a lot of talent. His stand up is very poor however, and he lacks balance when striking. He would do well to train with a better boxing coach. From what I've heard, he has ssome good power, but he has trouble pulling the trigger.
I think you'll see more Korean fighters go to the UFC in the future. The talent is there in Judo and I'm sure there is more than one really atheletic tekyeon, muai thai, or taekwondo fighter who would make a good transition into the UFC.
Danad White is no dummy and he is going to promote as many Aisan guys as he can. |
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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Kim would have lost to Diaz if it was a 5 rounder.
Kim needs a couple of more convincing wins before he should even be allowed to say GSP. |
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ekimswish
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| misher wrote: |
I was disappointed however with his cardio. The guy is in good shape and there was no excuse for gassing like that in the 2nd round. He was lucky with that win over Diaz IMO. |
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think you can say some one with poor cardio is in "good shape". In fact, cardio is one of the main criteria used to judge the shape an athlete is in. To be sure, poor cardio can often negate superior skills.
As the great Vince Lombardi said when he was putting his team through conditioning drills, "fatigue makes cowards of us all". |
To get back to that, if you watched TUF this season, I read in Kyle Watson's blog that they were doing two different kinds of exercises for two different kinds of strength (forget the terms): one was the kind of strength needed in bjj and grappling to hold onto a position for a long time, and then recover quickly when out of it; and the other was the kind of explosive strength related to fast-twitch muscles.
If they did a drill more related to explosiveness, they would end with a "static-strength" type of exercise; and if they did a static-strength type of drill, they would end with a more explosive type of exercise.
With MMA there are so many angles related to conditioning, unlike basketball or soccer, where you just have to keep breathing and moving for the most part. |
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