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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: Rosetta Stone - Anyone done the whole program? |
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I've often criticized Rosetta Stone Korean for being the slowest way I've seen for studying Korean, but that's been from my viewpoint of being here with tons of books and internet resources, opportunities to practice, etc.
I'm now studying Russian, and it seems to be a good fun all-around interactive way to study, but at the end of Lesson 1 (4 units) I feel like I've hardly learnt anything. The ambiguity of a lot of the lessons and the fact that I find myself guessing or cheating a majority of the time is also a worry.
Does it get better, or does it continue to be slow and frustrating? |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I've only used it for studying Korean, but I think RS isn't that good past level 2. The grammar just got far too complicated and I found myself guessing too much as to the point they were trying to get across in Level 3. Maybe I'm just not an intuitive person. Also, the vocabulary is insufficient.
IMHO, it's good only for beginner levels |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Why are you studying Russian? You live in Korea. |
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IncheonTOEFL
Joined: 05 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
| Why are you studying Russian? You live in Korea. |
lol |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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That is great that he wants to learn another language and all, it just
doesn't make much sense because of his current location.
I would be trying to master Hanguel first if i were him. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| For starting Korean as a beginner, Pimsleur is the best. Rosetta stone is a lot more comprehensive than Pimsleur. Doing Pimsleur first makes Rosetta Stone a lot easier. I've done all three levels of RS and for the money its a lot better than any other starting learning program. You have to go through RS over and over again for it to do any good. Which is pretty much the way it is supposed to be. Another thing to is you should have a Korean electronic dictionary when using PS Korean. I think the RS Korean is probably more difficult than the other RS languages. Because Korean is structurally a vastly different language and you have to make out the root language from all the word endings that Koreans a lot of the times don't use. My opinion is Pimsleur together with RS is the best way for a beginner. |
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Riker
Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Rosetta Stone is probably one of the worst language learning tools in my experience.
Much better results are to be had from Pimsleur combined with old fashioned books. Obviously a native speaker is even better. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
That is great that he wants to learn another language and all, it just
doesn't make much sense because of his current location.
I would be trying to master Hanguel first if i were him. |
5년 동안 한국어 공부했거든요. 한 두 달 후에 한국 떠나려고 해도 계속 공부해야 한단말이세요? 이제 러시아 여행 가서 러시아어 공부하기로 했어요.
Thanks to everyone for the opinions. I'll stick with it for now and report back on the results in a month or so. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
That is great that he wants to learn another language and all, it just
doesn't make much sense because of his current location. |
Russia's not that far away. Not that Vladivostok would be the nicest place to visit, mind you. Sakhalin would be interesting to visit too. Places formerly colonized by the Japanese are always interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yuzhno_SakhalinMuseum_(5).JPG |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
| cyui wrote: |
That is great that he wants to learn another language and all, it just
doesn't make much sense because of his current location.
I would be trying to master Hanguel first if i were him. |
5년 동안 한국어 공부했거든요. 한 두 달 후에 한국 떠나려고 해도 계속 공부해야 한단말이세요? 이제 러시아 여행 가서 러시아어 공부하기로 했어요.
Thanks to everyone for the opinions. I'll stick with it for now and report back on the results in a month or so. |
Why not buy a good Russian textbook for Koreans? Though Indo-European, Russian doesn't have articles and like Korean most of the action takes place at the end of the noun. The 꿩먹고알먹고 series is always pretty fun.
http://book.naver.com/bookdb/book_detail.nhn?bid=142781 |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Riker wrote: |
Rosetta Stone is probably one of the worst language learning tools in my experience.
Much better results are to be had from Pimsleur combined with old fashioned books. Obviously a native speaker is even better. |
Yeah, Rosetta Stone spent way too much money on marketing their product, and not enough money on making it good. They're selling to all those people who dream of learning a language, but never will because they don't have the time or the dedication. They buy it, play around with it for a few hours, and then tell all their friends how great it is that they're finally learning Italian. Then they never touch it again. |
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Eglayzer
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Gimhae-si, near Busan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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I'll make a counter point by saying that RS Korean has been really great for me. However, I don't think its that great for LEARNING. I find it really helpful for practicing what I have learned in my free classes or from self study books. The amount of practice that RS has to offer is great and the find playing the games to be fun.
I think it is not great stand alone software and should not be the only thing you use to learn Korea. Combined with other language learning strategies RS Korean can be really helpful. I would never actually PAY for it though. Just download it and realize its limitations. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Eglayzer wrote: |
However, I don't think its that great for LEARNING. I find it really helpful for practicing what I have learned in my free classes or from self study books. The amount of practice that RS has to offer is great and the find playing the games to be fun.
I think it is not great stand alone software and should not be the only thing you use to learn Korea. Combined with other language learning strategies RS Korean can be really helpful. I would never actually PAY for it though. Just download it and realize its limitations. |
This is spot on. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Hm, does Rosetta offer a Mongolian package? I am currently looking to learn Mongolian (since my GF is Mongolian...) but don't really know where to start with the learning process. Maybe I could learn it faster by learning it through Korean? Mith, do you have any experience with 몽골어? |
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Eglayzer
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Gimhae-si, near Busan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| RS has Mongolian but I have not used it and can not tell you if its any good. You can easily download it though. |
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