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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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You need a platinum card to get lounge access...otherwise, it's a long crawl with the skypass card toward getting airline miles for the VIP lounge access.
$20,000 + 5 overseas trips with a korean air skymiles card = half-way to ViP lounge status....just get the samsung or KEB platinum card if you want lounge access.  |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
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| I'm a Morning Calm member and I have 69,948 miles. 52 freaking miles short of a free international ticket. I feel like they must have done that on purpose to make me have to pay to fly with them again before getting my free ticket. |
Instead of feeling persecuted, just ship something back home with Hanjin Express and show your Korean Air Skypass. Boom! 100 miles. |
Crap, I actually did ship something with Hanjin Express but I didn't know I could give them my Skypass number. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| daeguowl wrote: |
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I"m a Skypass Member. Never been in the lounge though. My expat platinum card gives me access to the lounge so I'll try it out when I fly this March.
I have about 60,000 miles and that gets me a free domestic ticket in Korea. So, after flying across the world a few times, and having a Skypass credit card, I've racked up enough miles to fly to Busan or Jeju from Seoul.
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A domestic free ticket should cost 10,000miles. 60,000 should get you anywhere except Europe or the Americas... |
You are right, domestic is 10,000 miles offpeak, and 15,000 peak.
Japan is 30,000 offpeak, 45,000 peak.
Europe/Oceania/North Am/Middle East 70,000 offpeak, and 105,000 peak
Southeast ASia is 40,000 offpeak, 60,000 peak. |
Do you know how to transfer accumulated skypass miles from your credit card to your private Skypass membership? Is it necessary? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| methdxman wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| daeguowl wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
I"m a Skypass Member. Never been in the lounge though. My expat platinum card gives me access to the lounge so I'll try it out when I fly this March.
I have about 60,000 miles and that gets me a free domestic ticket in Korea. So, after flying across the world a few times, and having a Skypass credit card, I've racked up enough miles to fly to Busan or Jeju from Seoul.
Awesome. |
A domestic free ticket should cost 10,000miles. 60,000 should get you anywhere except Europe or the Americas... |
You are right, domestic is 10,000 miles offpeak, and 15,000 peak.
Japan is 30,000 offpeak, 45,000 peak.
Europe/Oceania/North Am/Middle East 70,000 offpeak, and 105,000 peak
Southeast ASia is 40,000 offpeak, 60,000 peak. |
Do you know how to transfer accumulated skypass miles from your credit card to your private Skypass membership? Is it necessary? |
Look at your credit card and your private skypass membership. Is the Skypass number the same? If it is, then the miles are being added together.
If they are different then you gotta call KoreanAir and get them to merge the 2 accounts into 1. I had a US skypass account and a Korean skypass for my credit card. It was no problem to merge the 2. |
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rayne
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there a websites that tell you how many points you need to get what rewards? I have a bit over 10 000 miles on skypass (roundtrip to korea and roundtrip in Jeju) but I'm thinking about giving up all that for Asiana... or should I just stick with Korean Air until I get a reward and then go with Asiana? |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: are you a Korean Air skypass member? |
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| MollyBloom wrote: |
JUST joined after all these years. I never really had to take Korean Air too much in the past, but I'll be back for many years this go around. I read about the access to the lounge; is the access worth it? I've never been in one. Thinking about getting that Korean Air Visa credit card though....15,000 miles starting out and double miles added to skypass when taking a KA flight. I just hope for free upgrades  |
I fly a lot, 70,000 miles plus per year and KAL is the airline of choice.
I have a KAL Skypass card but I stack my miles on my KLM card, just to keep 'em in one place. (Also, miles accrue faster with KLM than with KAL). I have a Shinhan charge card linked to Skypass and every purchase adds a few miles to my KAL miles. I use those KAL miles for upgrades.
Access to the lounge is definitely worth it - as is business class check-in. Higher baggage allowance too at the top levels.
You cannot shift miles from KAL to other Skypass members, so it is perhaps best to concentrate the miles in your "home" airline within the group. The lounge facilities etc work across all Skyteam members. eg, Gold card with KLM (40,000 miles) gets you in all Skyteam lounges. Platinum (70,000 miles) gets you and 2 guests in. In the Incheon business class lounge there is free WIFI, a smoking room, decent snacks and nibbles, a fair selection of drinks, beers and wines etc. The first class lounge is pretty much the same, but quieter.
With some airlines (KLM for example) you can use miles to get lounge access - 5,000 miles a visit I think. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Skypass is one of the worst frequent flier programs around. The only reason you'd want to use it is because it's quite easy to attain and retail elite status but it's only Silver. Crediting your miles to Delta would be much better for most fliers.
As previously mentioned, if you have the choice between Korean Air and Asiana, the frequent flier program for Asiana is miles better. You hit elite status at 20,000 miles |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Skypass is one of the worst frequent flier programs around. The only reason you'd want to use it is because it's quite easy to attain and retail elite status but it's only Silver. Crediting your miles to Delta would be much better for most fliers.
As previously mentioned, if you have the choice between Korean Air and Asiana, the frequent flier program for Asiana is miles better. You hit elite status at 20,000 miles |
+1 to this. I'm a morning calm member and to get to morning calm premium (aka business class lounge access) you need to get 500k miles. ridiculous. as people have said, do yourself a favor and dump your kal miles into a delta account to get lounge access before you are 80 and/or dead, or fly asiana instead. i'm a diamond plus on asiana and their lounges are fantastic and easy to get access to once you hit diamond. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| victorology wrote: |
Skypass is one of the worst frequent flier programs around. The only reason you'd want to use it is because it's quite easy to attain and retail elite status but it's only Silver. Crediting your miles to Delta would be much better for most fliers.
As previously mentioned, if you have the choice between Korean Air and Asiana, the frequent flier program for Asiana is miles better. You hit elite status at 20,000 miles |
+1 to this. I'm a morning calm member and to get to morning calm premium (aka business class lounge access) you need to get 500k miles. ridiculous. as people have said, do yourself a favor and dump your kal miles into a delta account to get lounge access before you are 80 and/or dead, or fly asiana instead. i'm a diamond plus on asiana and their lounges are fantastic and easy to get access to once you hit diamond. |
This is just wrong.
You do not need 500,000 miles to get "Morning Calm" and lounge access. You need to have travelled only 50,000 miles - and not even in one year, as is usually the case. From KAL site:-
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Membership Qualification
Members who have
Earned 50,000 flown miles or more on Korean Air, or
Earned 50,000 miles or more on Korean Air and SKYPASS partners
(provided that at least 30,000 miles are earned from flying on Korean Air), or
Flown more than 40 qualifying flights on Korean Air
(* One Korea domestic flight is counted as 0.5 qualifying flight.)
Elite member status is determined according to the total accumulated mileage, regardless of the bonus award redemption or expiration on accumulated miles.
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Asiana do grant lounge access to their lounges at 20,000 miles (Gold card). For access to other Star Alliance lounges, it is 40,000 miles (Diamond card). The Asiana gold card is equivalent to other Star Alliance silver cards. |
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daeguowl
Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| victorology wrote: |
Skypass is one of the worst frequent flier programs around. The only reason you'd want to use it is because it's quite easy to attain and retail elite status but it's only Silver. Crediting your miles to Delta would be much better for most fliers.
As previously mentioned, if you have the choice between Korean Air and Asiana, the frequent flier program for Asiana is miles better. You hit elite status at 20,000 miles |
+1 to this. I'm a morning calm member and to get to morning calm premium (aka business class lounge access) you need to get 500k miles. ridiculous. as people have said, do yourself a favor and dump your kal miles into a delta account to get lounge access before you are 80 and/or dead, or fly asiana instead. i'm a diamond plus on asiana and their lounges are fantastic and easy to get access to once you hit diamond. |
This is just wrong.
You do not need 500,000 miles to get "Morning Calm" and lounge access. You need to have travelled only 50,000 miles - and not even in one year, as is usually the case. From KAL site:-
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Membership Qualification
Members who have
Earned 50,000 flown miles or more on Korean Air, or
Earned 50,000 miles or more on Korean Air and SKYPASS partners
(provided that at least 30,000 miles are earned from flying on Korean Air), or
Flown more than 40 qualifying flights on Korean Air
(* One Korea domestic flight is counted as 0.5 qualifying flight.)
Elite member status is determined according to the total accumulated mileage, regardless of the bonus award redemption or expiration on accumulated miles.
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Asiana do grant lounge access to their lounges at 20,000 miles (Gold card). For access to other Star Alliance lounges, it is 40,000 miles (Diamond card). The Asiana gold card is equivalent to other Star Alliance silver cards. |
50,000 only gets you into the lounge four times over a two year period... |
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kenglish
Joined: 10 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| my dad's an ultra(?) platinum member and it's pretty neat for him. lounge access all year, gets to use 1st class counter for ticketing, gets to board the plane on 1st, his luggages also always come out first (even b4 1st class seaters), always get greeted by the captain... blah blah. basically no waiting and lounge food. it's an extravagant lifestyle 4sho. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: Re: are you a Korean Air skypass member? |
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| MollyBloom wrote: |
I have a KAL Skypass card but I stack my miles on my KLM card, just to keep 'em in one place. . |
I also a have a KLM Skyteam card but your miles will disappear if you don`t fly with them for 18 months (they are a bit notorious for not sending out reminder letters!)......I love the half price mileage promos they do (Seoul is there quite regularly too). Saying that....I always try to fly Star Alliance now whenever I can as Skyteam has gone downhill since they brought in their crap rules in 2009.
I`ve had a look into Skypass but I don`t see a lot of benefit switching to them. Not much in the way of incentives.
PS: For your accumulated miles, do NOT waste your hard earned miles on domestic/short haul trips. Frequent flyers say the best way to get utilize your miles is long haul (ideally in C class or above) so save em 
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-points-1/ |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
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Skypass is one of the worst frequent flier programs around. The only reason you'd want to use it is because it's quite easy to attain and retail elite status but it's only Silver. Crediting your miles to Delta would be much better for most fliers.
As previously mentioned, if you have the choice between Korean Air and Asiana, the frequent flier program for Asiana is miles better. You hit elite status at 20,000 miles |
+1 to this. I'm a morning calm member and to get to morning calm premium (aka business class lounge access) you need to get 500k miles. ridiculous. as people have said, do yourself a favor and dump your kal miles into a delta account to get lounge access before you are 80 and/or dead, or fly asiana instead. i'm a diamond plus on asiana and their lounges are fantastic and easy to get access to once you hit diamond. |
This is just wrong.
You do not need 500,000 miles to get "Morning Calm" and lounge access. You need to have travelled only 50,000 miles - and not even in one year, as is usually the case. From KAL site:-
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Membership Qualification
Members who have
Earned 50,000 flown miles or more on Korean Air, or
Earned 50,000 miles or more on Korean Air and SKYPASS partners
(provided that at least 30,000 miles are earned from flying on Korean Air), or
Flown more than 40 qualifying flights on Korean Air
(* One Korea domestic flight is counted as 0.5 qualifying flight.)
Elite member status is determined according to the total accumulated mileage, regardless of the bonus award redemption or expiration on accumulated miles.
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Asiana do grant lounge access to their lounges at 20,000 miles (Gold card). For access to other Star Alliance lounges, it is 40,000 miles (Diamond card). The Asiana gold card is equivalent to other Star Alliance silver cards. |
You get into Morning Calm club at 50,000 miles but it's virtually worthless. Morning Calm on SkyTeam is the equivalent to Star Alliance Silver. The real perks come at Morning Calm Premium which would be the equivalent to Star Alliance Gold. 500,000 miles to hit that level is really bad compared with other SkyTeam partners.
If you only fly 15-20,000 miles a year, then crediting to Skypass might make sense b/c you can qualify for Morning Calm but if you're flying 25,000 miles or more, it would be best to choose another FFP to credit to. |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, this is really getting deep in the weeds here and a lot of the terms you guys used was lost on me. As i have never been a FFM and I don't know how you earn miles on credit/debt cards. So can someone just simplify things a bit?
I want to do this, why not really, and heres my status:
Moderate traveler. A least 2, sometimes 3 international trips a year (in Asia), plus puddle jumper flights while on said trips. Maybe one pan Pacific round trip every 5 years or so.
Nice little perks would be good. Faster check in maybe. I don't need a lounge or anything, a lot of airports now have lounge chairs and wifi all over the place anyway. Getting an upgrade though would be terrific. I got a free upgrade a few years back because I was late at check in and they filled up econ seats. Man, I should have never done that. Now I know what I'm missing every time I walk past those big comfy sofa chairs with their personal TVs, leg room, and menus! Frak I couldn't believe it, an actual menu where I could choose what I wanted for meal and I got served like I was in a restaurant or something. Man, that was the best 4 hour flight of my life.
Anyways, off topic. So what would be best? Of course KAL is bit nicer and safer. But Asiana is okay too. I just can't get over that ugly gray they use as their color, how drab and depressing. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| wangja wrote: |
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+1 to this. I'm a morning calm member and to get to morning calm premium (aka business class lounge access) you need to get 500k miles. ridiculous. as people have said, do yourself a favor and dump your kal miles into a delta account to get lounge access before you are 80 and/or dead, or fly asiana instead. i'm a diamond plus on asiana and their lounges are fantastic and easy to get access to once you hit diamond. |
This is just wrong.
You do not need 500,000 miles to get "Morning Calm" and lounge access. You need to have travelled only 50,000 miles - and not even in one year, as is usually the case. From KAL site:-
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you sir, are having a reading fail. i said morning calm premium, not morning calm. morning calm premium is when you can get access to business class lounges, and you get that at 500k miles.
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Asiana do grant lounge access to their lounges at 20,000 miles (Gold card). For access to other Star Alliance lounges, it is 40,000 miles (Diamond card). The Asiana gold card is equivalent to other Star Alliance silver cards. |
you are also wrong here. you only get a few coupons to asiana lounges at gold level, not unlimited lounge access. the unlimited business lounge access starts at diamond.
before you start saying people are wrong and make yourself look like a fool, you should read first. i'm a kal morning calm member creeping up on morning calm premium and an asiana diamond plus member. i've flown in excess of 400k miles in the past 8 months alone mostly split between kal, asiana and lufthansa, so i'm fairly sure i know what i'm talking about. |
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