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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Don't you know, Junior Logic states tha all white people are all the same, we have the exact same interests, desires, beliefs, etc.
Biblethumper, it is ironic yo use aterm that was derived from ignorance and misundrstandng. The word 'Indian' meant for First Nations is because the people arrivig in North Ameica thought they were in India.
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| And as far as being illegal... mind showing me what laws were broken? You've already claimed a 99% murder rate... mind showing me specifically which laws you KNOW I and my forefathers broke? |
Trespass.
A while ago what is now known as "Canada" was a land owned and run by native peoples.
Now its owned and run by white invaders.
Clearly something suspicious has happened.
Care to explain? |
I don't need to explain... I'm not the one that has claimed a 99% murder rate.
What First Nations' law document have you read from around the 1500 that codifies Trespass? Is that an actual rule that the bands/tribes had at the time, or are you simply pushing a modern perspective on it?
Also, what is 'white'? You've attacked my family lineage without actually knowing me personally... why not clarify here? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
| Don't you know, Junior Logic states tha all white people are all the same, we have the exact same interests, desires, beliefs, etc. |
Ah, so he's a known <mod edit> |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Racist bias? Ha. I care about the fact that the state of Israel messes with my own American interests. Rock on with you bigotry. |
So first you disavow any interest in human rights, then you say its all about your own interests. While at the same time the only people you have shown sympathy toward are those who kill their own family members and plant bombs. Quite a character aren't we? |
Palestinians don't do honor killings (all Muslims aren't the same), and planting bombs is what any insurgency does. |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Indians can call themselves whatever they want: do not expect us to change the English language to suit them. |
A Native American was asked what he thought about being called Indians, to which he responded, "It's kinda cool." They are clearly not hung up on PC stuff. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Hae you ever studied statistics? Just asking.
Try asking a First nations Canadian. Ask more than one as well.
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| Biblethumper wrote: |
| Indians can call themselves whatever they want: do not expect us to change the English language to suit them. |
A Native American was asked what he thought about being called Indians, to which he responded, "It's kinda cool." They are clearly not hung up on PC stuff. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Palestinians don't do honor killings |
Lol your ignorance is laughable.
Flirting was a costly mistake for Samera. She was only 15 years old when her neighbours in Salfeet, a small Palestinian town on the West Bank, saw her chatting with a young man without a male chaperone. Her family's honour was at stake; a marriage was quickly arranged. By 16, she had a child. Five years later, when she could stand the bogus marriage no longer, she bolted. In a place where gossip is traded like hard currency, and a girl's chastity is as public as her name, Samera's actions were considered akin to making a date with the devil. According to the gossips, she went from man to man as she moved from place to place. Finally, last July [1999], her family caught up with her. A few days later she was found stuffed down a well. Her neck had been broken.
http://www.gendercide.org/case_honour.html
Honor killing among the Palestinians
In the Palestinian communities of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel, and Jordan, women are executed in their homes, in open fields, and occasionally in public, sometimes before crowds of cheering onlookers. Honor killings account for virtually all of the murders of Palestinian women in these areas.
http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/public/2003/may/clpub.asp
Given that honor killings often remain a private family affair, no official statistics are available on the practice or its frequency. According to a November 1997 report of the Woman's Empowerment Project published in Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, there were 20 honor killings in Gaza and the West Bank in 1996.
http://www.merip.org/mer/mer206/ruggi.htm
I also recommend this- which I have read. Gripping account of a Palestinian survivor of an attempted honor killing. Also just a revealing memoir of life growing up in Gaza.
Burned Alive by Souad
http://www.amazon.com/Burned-Alive-Survivor-Killing-Speaks/dp/0446694878
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| and planting bombs is what any insurgency does. |
No they don't. Most insurgents do not target innocent civilians with bombs strapped to the backs of children and mentally disabled people.
Btw you still haven't answered my earlier question: if forming and helping strategic allies is "against American interests" and a drain on your economy, then why has the US been in the ROK for 60 years?
And if Israel is the only reason the US is not at peace with muslims, then why has Obama just announced the largest ever war budget to keep the war going in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Sorry but your logic just doesn't add up and i can only conclude that you have been brainwashed by the popular media into being an anti-semite. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| They believed the land belonged to everyone. |
Thats just an old colonial fairy tale to justify grand theft.
Let me guess, you bought the entire country honestly for a bag of shiny beads.
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
| Don't you know, Junior Logic states tha all white people are all the same, we have the exact same interests, desires, beliefs, etc. |
Ah, so he's a known <mod edit> |
Ah..yes, finally the predictable backchat of losers without an argument.
Give back your grandpas ill-gotten gains to the natives... before you dare to point the finger at other countries. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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You could make the same statement about muslims in the Balkans. Destabilization tends to happen wherever muslims go. |
Yeah, of course, because it was all the Bosnians' fault that the Serbs were using sniper rifles and artillery on innocent civilian populations, massacring them, etc. 
Go and read a book about the Balkan wars, then comment on it. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Is Junior one of those Christians that sympathise with Israel or a zionist chew?
about the whole destabilization thing wherever Muslims go...I have to agree with it. It's all harmless when they are 1% of the population but as soon as they gain numbers and political power the country always goes to shit. ALWAYS. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Destabilization goes wherever humans go. It's a fact. Where in the world has always been stable? Alaska maybe, people there are too cold to fight.
Countries like western Europe, Aussieland and Canada are stable now because they're rich. Take away their money and watch things go to crap.
In effect, we did buy the country for little more than some shiny beads, using a European idea of laws, contracts, and ownership, which the First Nations had no concept of. If you read my posts, I am not justifying it, but it is really apples and oranges with the zionist situation.
But guys like Jr. have no argument past calling us names. Keep attending that debating class, dude. You need it.
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Is Junior one of those Christians that sympathise with Israel or a zionist chew?
about the whole destabilization thing wherever Muslims go...I have to agree with it. It's all harmless when they are 1% of the population but as soon as they gain numbers and political power the country always goes to shit. ALWAYS. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
| They believed the land belonged to everyone. |
Thats just an old colonial fairy tale to justify grand theft.
Let me guess, you bought the entire country honestly for a bag of shiny beads.
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
| Don't you know, Junior Logic states tha all white people are all the same, we have the exact same interests, desires, beliefs, etc. |
Ah, so he's a known <mod edit> |
Ah..yes, finally the predictable backchat of losers without an argument.
Give back your grandpas ill-gotten gains to the natives... before you dare to point the finger at other countries. |
You've made claims on here and have yet to back any of them up.
And no, a blog from 5 years ago with 5 posts on it doesn't count.
Where are the 99% murder rates you are talking about?
Where the proof of what MY family did?
And what fingers am I pointing?
Where is any of it??
I honestly never realized you were such a troll. I've never really paid attention to much of your posts before, but I don't recall the accusations being so outlandish. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Well if Canadians (not necessarily your ancestors) didn't kill most of the native population, then where did they all go? Are you saying that the native population has not gone down since colonisation? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Well if Canadians (not necessarily your ancestors) didn't kill most of the native population, then where did they all go? Are you saying that the native population has not gone down since colonisation? |
The population is currently over a million. I'd be curious to see/hear esimates of Canada's (region) population before Europeans made landfall. |
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stilicho25
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen everything from 100 million, to 10 million, usually with very little evidence to back up the number. Smallpox killed an unbelievable number, so its really hard to say.
As far as pushing out indiginous people, the native americans themselves came in at least three waves. In fact, I just saw a history channel thingy which presented evidence of an early wave of japanese settlement of peru (they exhumed mummies which had diseases only found in Japan)
As we see in this argument, its a huge political football. Any reasonable person would say yes, Europeans did conquer the natives in a brutal fashion, as the natives had once conquered other natives. Its really just waves of humanity first overcoming, and then mixing with the populations they overcome. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Is Jeffrey Goldberg an anti-Semite?
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Peace will not come without the birth of a Palestinian state on the West Bank which has its capital in East Jerusalem. I'm as sure of that as I am of anything in the Middle East. Of course, peace may not come even with the birth of this state -- I'm no longer quite so sure in the possiblity, or at least in the availability, of peace -- but it will surely never happen without it. This is why, of course, certain right-wing Jewish groups, aided and abetted by different factions in Israel's chaotic government, are seeking to populate East Jerusalem with Jews: to prevent the birth of a Palestinian state. These particular Jews operate under the delusion that Israel can keep control of the Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem forever, and most of the West Bank forever, without negative consequences. They are drastically wrong. Eventually, something is going to give. At a certain point in the not-so-distant future, Israel will either cease to be a Jewish state, or it will cease to be a democracy. Attempts to abort the birth of a Palestinian state only hasten this moment of decision.
Israel will survive without the Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem. It will not survive if it becomes a pariah state, and, in this unfortunate world in which we must exist, Israel is in danger of becoming an outcast among nations. |
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/the-future-of-jerusalem/69295/ |
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