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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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 Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: Odd choices for cartoons/ilustrations next to news articles. |
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OK, I know I previously posted on how obviously long-nosed the foreigners were portrayed in this article about the "popularity of the Korean language: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/11/2009091100859.html
especially odd is the fact that in the article, about 80 percent of the foreigners signed up to take the Korean test are from China and Japan.
Today, there was an article about the "Volt" being chosen as the car of the year.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/17/2011011700756.html
Check out the accompanying cartoon. I guess none of the disgruntled non-GM people were from other US auto makers nor European ones. The cartoon portrays happy white dudes (with their obvious stand-out feature) and disappointed Asians. Weird.
But a few weeks back, I really didn't get this one.
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20101228000776
The article is all about Korean women and violence, but check out the pic. It looks like an NBA referee and a tall white woman singing a duet into an imaginary microphone.
I just wonder how they come up with these illustrations to match up with their articles. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Odd choices for cartoons/ilustrations next to news artic |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| I just wonder how they come up with these illustrations to match up with their articles. |
MS Office clipart CD?
Seriously, if you can get upset by the cutesy cartoons of Westerners here, you should not get into Thai newspapers (and that includes the two English language papers). Their cartoonists must have learned their skills from WW2 propaganda posters. While I can find only ridicule for the majority of "racism" detection here, the social and political cartoons on the Bangkok Post editorial page have more than once made me feel sick in my stomach.
One of their best and funniest cartoonists was removed after what I hope was a protest wave, when he portrayed a murdered young backpacker girl as a whorish *beep* that clearly had it coming.
All in all, exaggeration of prominent features is a tool of cartoonists. Ever seen a sketch of Jay Leno?
3rd link didn't work for me so no comments on that. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Odd choices for cartoons/ilustrations next to news artic |
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| orosee wrote: |
Seriously, if you can get upset by the cutesy cartoons of Westerners here, you should not get into Thai newspapers (and that includes the two English language papers). Their cartoonists must have learned their skills from WW2 propaganda posters. While I can find only ridicule for the majority of "racism" detection here,
All in all, exaggeration of prominent features is a tool of cartoonists. Ever seen a sketch of Jay Leno?
3rd link didn't work for me so no comments on that. |
I reread my post and I can't see where I said I was "upset" nor where I used the term "racism." So, your response confuses me a bit. I'm not upset by these cartoons. I just find them weird. Sure, I figure the big nose thing is racial feature as seen through the eyes of some Asians, but the big nose foreigners don't even fit the articles. As I said, 80 percent of the "foreigners" taking the Korean language test, were East Asians. The story about the Volt said that non-GM people were critical of the decision (which would include plenty of other "big nose" people like other American manufacturers and European ones too. The Germans still make cars, right?) But the cartoon depicted happy white guys and upset Asian guys. Just weird, like the cartoonist didn't understand the article or something.
The last link doesn't work for me sometimes either, but usually it does. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's a matter of them just kind of reading into articles what they want to see. Their worldviews are so limited to mostly Korean people with a smattering of weird foreigners (who are almost exclusively American, and only the blonde ones count of course). They don't notice Chinese and Japanese people in the streets so they wouldn't even think to take note of the fact that 80% of the test-takers or whatever were also Asian.
I would just love to go up to one of the cartoonists diligently drawing his long noses and be like, "Heyyyy whatcha doin'?" You know for all the racism and false bravado, they'd be terrified to actually talk to one of us. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps they are projecting? |
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orosee
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Odd choices for cartoons/ilustrations next to news artic |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
I reread my post and I can't see where I said I was "upset" nor where I used the term "racism." So, your response confuses me a bit. I'm not upset by these cartoons. I just find them weird. Sure, I figure the big nose thing is racial feature as seen through the eyes of some Asians, but the big nose foreigners don't even fit the articles. As I said, 80 percent of the "foreigners" taking the Korean language test, were East Asians. The story about the Volt said that non-GM people were critical of the decision (which would include plenty of other "big nose" people like other American manufacturers and European ones too. The Germans still make cars, right?) But the cartoon depicted happy white guys and upset Asian guys. Just weird, like the cartoonist didn't understand the article or something.
The last link doesn't work for me sometimes either, but usually it does. |
Sorry, I came here through the link from the other cartoon post so my sentiments spilled over into my reply. I do agree with you that the article and illustrations don't make a perfect match. I might even be right with my stock clipart CD guess (I'm sure MS has a made-for-Korea version). |
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orosee
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha, I got the 3rd link working and you're totally right - the picture looks like a 3 minute photoshop job. Almost like the two are dancing if their hands would overlap a bit more. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| orosee wrote: |
| Haha, I got the 3rd link working and you're totally right - the picture looks like a 3 minute photoshop job. Almost like the two are dancing if their hands would overlap a bit more. |
Sorry, this is completely random, but are you a native English speaker, orosee? I usually see this grammar construction ("if [conditional], then..." rather than "if [past], then [conditional]") with speakers of Germanic languages, but lately I've been wondering if some native speakers say it too for how often I've seen it. Do you mind my asking where you're from? |
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orosee
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Haha, I got the 3rd link working and you're totally right - the picture looks like a 3 minute photoshop job. Almost like the two are dancing if their hands would overlap a bit more. |
Sorry, this is completely random, but are you a native English speaker, orosee? I usually see this grammar construction ("if [conditional], then..." rather than "if [past], then [conditional]") with speakers of Germanic languages, but lately I've been wondering if some native speakers say it too for how often I've seen it. Do you mind my asking where you're from? |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| orosee wrote: |
| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Haha, I got the 3rd link working and you're totally right - the picture looks like a 3 minute photoshop job. Almost like the two are dancing if their hands would overlap a bit more. |
Sorry, this is completely random, but are you a native English speaker, orosee? I usually see this grammar construction ("if [conditional], then..." rather than "if [past], then [conditional]") with speakers of Germanic languages, but lately I've been wondering if some native speakers say it too for how often I've seen it. Do you mind my asking where you're from? |
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Omg!!! Let's everyone just admit right now that I'm amazing and my linguistic investigative skills are off the charts. ^^
Woher (aus welcher Stadt) kommst du? Und warum bist du hier? Ich liebe gern die Deutsche. <3
Sorry for hijacking the thread. -_-; Feel free to PM me if you'd like, lol. |
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orosee
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
Omg!!! Let's everyone just admit right now that I'm amazing and my linguistic investigative skills are off the charts. ^^
Woher (aus welcher Stadt) kommst du? Und warum bist du hier? Ich liebe gern die Deutsche. <3
Sorry for hijacking the thread. -_-; Feel free to PM me if you'd like, lol. |
You're amazing! 
I'm from Cologne (which has its own grammar rules and dictionary) but I spent a good amount of time in Aachen. 15+ years living in Asia now. ^^ or :^) (that's the Western nose smiley)  |
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redaxe
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
| I think it's a matter of them just kind of reading into articles what they want to see. Their worldviews are so limited to mostly Korean people with a smattering of weird foreigners (who are almost exclusively Canadian, and only the blonde ones count of course). They don't notice Chinese and Japanese people in the streets so they wouldn't even think to take note of the fact that 80% of the test-takers or whatever were also Asian. |
(Fixed that for you) |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| orosee wrote: |
You're amazing!
I'm from Cologne (which has its own grammar rules and dictionary) but I spent a good amount of time in Aachen. 15+ years living in Asia now. ^^ or :^) (that's the Western nose smiley) |
Ahaha. Great. I once couldn't get a sandwich in Cologne because they wouldn't take my Visa card. >:[ I promise not to hold it against you.
Back to the topic at hand - Is it true the picture on that one article disappeared? I feel so...so...powerful, ㅋㅋ. They didn't write me back, though.  |
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