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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Korea Herald: �English kindergartens� to be banned Reply with quote

From the Korea Herald,
2011-01-17


�English kindergartens� to be banned


http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110117000871


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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea Herald: �English kindergartens� to be banned Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:


Earlier news of a habitual marijuana smoker having taught English at an institute in Yongin, Gyeonggi Province, also alarmed parents.


Born & raised in Vancouver BC, this part made me chuckle.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
From the Korea Herald,
2011-01-17


Having taught in the English kindergarten program at Kid's Herald (now known as Herald School), a hogwon chain owned by the Korea Herald, I found this part particularly hilarious.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea Herald: �English kindergartens� to be banned Reply with quote

Quote:

English kindergartens are regarded as prestigious facilities in Korea. Rep. Cho Jeon-hyeok of the ruling Grand National Party last year revealed that one month�s enrollment can cost up to 1.7 million won ($1,400) per child ― more than seven times the monthly payment for an ordinary kindergarten place.


I found this part deliberately misleading as so many statistics seem to be for articles in this paper. Comparing the maximum cost of one type of school to the typical cost of another is pointless.

I also use to work at a Herald School. Their textbooks were the crappiest I've ever encountered. I wonder how this would affect all of the other big name franchises.

What's the political impetus behind this?

My Korean co-worker thinks it's the upper-class trying to widen the gap between them and the middle class by denying the middle class affordable English education, as the rich could just pay for private tutors if English kindergartens were shut down.

My boss is worried about this because we are a kindy/afternoon hagwon. So she thinks it's going to force her to register either as a kindergarten or a private institute which would result in her losing half of her business.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I don't understand: can't they just all register as hagwons but continue to provide classes for the younger kids, so long as they don't use the term kindergarten? Also, does it provide a loophole if there's a licensed Korean teacher in the classroom?
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea Herald: �English kindergartens� to be banned Reply with quote

the Korea Herald wrote:

The qualification of the facilities was also brought into question. Recently, a mass food poisoning took place in an �English pre-school� in affluent southern Seoul. Investigators said the operators had served outdated foods and admitted that tight hygiene regulations were not applied to hagwon.


What does this have to do with a hagwon being an "English pre-school"? I could see this happening in a mom & pop hagwon as well
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supernick



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What does this have to do with a hagwon being an "English pre-school"? I could see this happening in a mom & pop hagwon as well


I thought the same thing, and then I remembered that this is Korea. They must change the rules because a drunk bus driver ran over little Min-sook. To some idiots it makes perfect sense, and thankfully to you and I we see through it.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But this is ok?

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/18/2011011800310.html
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it seems that they are going to actually shut down all 270 English-teaching pre-schools in Korea. Big move.

If anyone can translate the following Korean news transcript from MBC I think you will find that they are talking about closing them all down permanently because they do not want English taught in Kindergartens.

From what i can gather it seems to say that schools which target pre-schoolers and teach English will be targeted so it is not only because of their name but their activity. Part of it is that there is no regulation of such schools so it is perceived as dangerous. But the issue is that they would not exist if there were not a strict National curriculum for Kindergartens that completely excluded English. I suspect the next thing on the table will be including English in the allowable Kindergarten curriculum and making the curriculum more flexible as some parents said they chose the private schools not only for their English but also a different variety of teaching content and styles on offer.

흔히들 영어유치원이라고 부르죠.

앞으로 유치원 흉내내는 영어학원들은 문을 닫아야 합니다.

오해정 기자입니다.

◀VCR▶

학부모들 사이에 인기를 끌고 있는

이른바 '영어 유치원'은

유치원이 아닌 영어 학원으로

당국에 신고돼 있습니다.

현행법상 유치원 과정에서는

영어를 가르치도록 돼 있지 않기 때문입니다.

교육과학기술부는 앞으로는

유치원과 같은 형태로 운영되다

적발되는 유아 대상 영어 학원은

폐쇄하기로 했습니다.

정부가 이 같은 결정을 내린 계기는

최근 발생한 서울 강남의 영어유치원에서

발생한 식중독 사고입니다.

학원은 유치원과는 달리

당국의 관리 감독이 허술하기 때문에

이 같은 문제가 발생할 수 밖에 없다고

보기 때문입니다.

또 영어학원을 홍보할 때

프리스쿨이나 킨더가르텐처럼

유치원을 연상시킬 수있는

단어만 사용해도

단속하기로 했습니다.

교과부는

이같은 내용의 유아교육법 개정안이

국회에서 통과되면

곧바로 시행할 계획입니다.

현재 유아 대상 영어 학원은

전국 270여 곳에 달합니다.

이 때문에 이 방안이 시행되면

학원 업계는 큰 타격을 받을 수 밖에 없고,

학부모들도 일시적인 혼란을

겪을 것으로 보입니다.

MBC뉴스 오해정입니다.

(오해정 기자 [email protected])
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, for one, support it 110%. Good for them. An introduction to English should be included in middle school and upwards. Elementary? no. Pre-school? Definitely not.

'Nuff said.
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gypsymaria



Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if that will affect the younger classes in my school. I teach at Uiwang English Premiere Center, which is an English Village, but in a government funded facility that includes a library and a daycare center. Think they'll just ignore us? Confused
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids that can barely speak Korean won't learn anything be spending 4 hours a week in a building where they can understand even less of the foreign language anyways. English pre-school and Kindergartens always seemed ridiculous to me.

I went to a Spanish-speaking Kindergarten back in the states in the early 90's and I didn't learn any functional Spanish until 5th grade or so, and that was after spending 6 hours a day, 5 days a week in "Spanish Immersion".
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PastorYoon



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so happy when I hear how much Koreans spend on their kids' educations. I hope the prices keep rising.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't kindergarten optional?
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PastorYoon



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Isn't kindergarten optional?


I teach some kids who are going to China, and will pay $40,000 / year (base tuition) for each of their 3 kids for the next 4 years. This is for middle school. Lol. I love it.
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