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rustbot82



Joined: 18 Jan 2011
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: One year masters programs? Reply with quote
I'd like to save up to get a TESOL MA in a few years, and advance myself professionally. I've looked into a few programs in Australia, but some people have told me that I'd do better getting an American masters, as I am American. But I don't really wanna invest a huge amount of time in school; I'd rather be working. I'm also not really drawn to online programs.

Any thoughts on that?


I've also considered Masters programs in Britain. How are they seen in Korea?


Anyone know of a decent one-year on-campus TESOL MA program in the states?


Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am guessing that the people who are telling you not to get your MA outside the states don't have an MA.

I my personal experience, an MA that was conferred by an accredited institution anywhere in the anglophone world is acceptable to most employers anywhere else in the anglophone world

AND I have never met an employer outside the anglophone world who would discount it over one conferred in another anglophone country.

Bottom line - they are as good as you want them to be regardless of the country it was obtained in (Aus, UK, US, Canada, etc). An MA is an MA is an MA.

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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ttompatz wrote:
I am guessing that the people who are telling you not to get your MA outside the states don't have an MA.

I my personal experience, an MA that was conferred by an accredited institution anywhere in the anglophone world is acceptable to most employers anywhere else in the anglophone world

AND I have never met an employer outside the anglophone world who would discount it over one conferred in another anglophone country.

Bottom line - they are as good as you want them to be regardless of the country it was obtained in (Aus, UK, US, Canada, etc). An MA is an MA is an MA.

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This is a dumb question as I don't know anything about this matter but are schools in Aus/NZ generally considered just as "accredited" by Korean/Chinese/other ESL career countries as a MA from the States?

I'm not comparing Harvard to some NZ school in the boonies, but in general.
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rustbot82



Joined: 18 Jan 2011
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well how about for Korean colleges?

Aren't American degrees more esteemed? I feel like I've heard that a lot...
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rustbot82 wrote:
Well how about for Korean colleges?

Aren't American degrees more esteemed? I feel like I've heard that a lot...


American degrees are more esteemed than any other country's in the world. They are ten times more esteemed than Korean colleges, which is why so many Koreans go there to study instead of it being the other way.

But for getting an ESL job in Korea, I'm curious whether the country you got your degree in matters as much.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
marsavalanche wrote:

This is a dumb question as I don't know anything about this matter but are schools in Aus/NZ generally considered just as "accredited" by Korean/Chinese/other ESL career countries as a MA from the States?


Either the university is or is not ("accredited").

If it is then it is.

If it is not then it is nothing more than a paper mill (like those that send you adds in your e-mail to get a Ma/PhD in 30 days based on experience).

Would you like a PhD from Ttompatz-U? "Guaranteed" to get you that position you always coveted. Not accredited but sure looks "purdy" up there on the wall.

rustbot82 wrote:
Well how about for Korean colleges?

Aren't American degrees more esteemed? I feel like I've heard that a lot...


More esteemed = maybe (especially in the eyes of those who don't know any better).

Will it make a difference in getting a job = unlikely unless you are up against someone with their MA/PhD from "Harvard".

I have NEVER had any problem finding a decent position (with the pay and benefits that I expect). People with MATESOLs are hard to find (much harder to find than MA.Ed.s) so the jobs outnumber applicants about 20-1.

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dyc



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just curious, but what are the advantages of getting an MA in TESOL? Could one use that education to teach ESL back home in N America?
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olsanairbase



Joined: 30 Aug 2010
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
dyc wrote:
Just curious, but what are the advantages of getting an MA in TESOL? Could one use that education to teach ESL back home in N America?


MA TESOL crowd are often given non-tenured jobs of working hourly from school to school in morning day and night teaching classes and waiting for one of the few full-time tenure track positions to open up.

MA in Applied Linigustics tend to teach clases to the regular non-esl population either to undergrads or teachers in truaining which are almost always tenured right of the bat.

In Short,
MA TESOL probably makes more sense overseas but Applied Linguistics applies much more to the academia then it does the pracitcality of the profession.
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Poker



Joined: 16 Jan 2010
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
About MA TESOL in Korea, can one teach at a public school and study/go to class during the nights and weekends? Any places that offer flexible programs in SK? I am only looking to teach in Korea. Anyone with experience in taking a Korean MA TESOL? How long did it take and how was it? Thanks
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
To Koreans, USA only has 9 Univesrities. The 8 Ivy league schools and MIT. If you didn't go there, you are considered to have gone to a crap school.


It doesn't matter that there are over 200 Tier 1 Universities in the US that are hands down better than Korean Universities.
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote