Korean Job Discussion Forums

[drama_addict]

[minos]

Problem with JET is the lack of city postings and the long ass application process.

I've met jets and they quit for the same reasons people in EPIK do: the rural country side blows no matter how much you like Asia.

Jet's a more awesome organization than SMOE or GEPIK, but the rural placement kills it....I've met folks sent to islands!

I'm sure there is one lucky SOB who got the rare Tokyo JET positions still alive.

I'd gladly bribe him 5 million won for his job when he completes.

[Plume D'ella Plumeria]

Mosley, you really miss Jet; am I right? Best time of your life and all that?

I feel for you; I really do. My years in Japan (non-Jet) were among the best years of my life. They're gone now, never to be gotten back. But God, those were some great years ...

[Mosley]

Plume: I'll reply on the off chance that you're sincere and not a smirking smart a**. I daresay you're on the level.

Yes, I can still get misty eyed when I think of my JET days-no bones about it. And hell, I even have SOME fond memories of my two years in Japan post-JET with an evil eikaiwa. Like JET, I was the "old man" compared to my colleagues. Unlike JET, I actually did some socializing w/them, as I found they were far more down to earth than many JETs. THAT was nearly a decade ago and I cleared 275K/mo. and figured I was being royally screwed because of the workload. I, and a few others, fought against the "Man"(so to speak)and constantly invoked JET as the ideal. We had victories, but they were minor, I can tell you. And yet, even that non-JET gig was like a gravy train compared to the absolute crapola facing most non-JET teachers in Japan today.

The whole point of my OP wasn't to wax poetic about Mosley's salad days in JET Japan. Rather, it was to get EFLers in E. Asia, novice or veteran, younger or older, in Japan or Korea or Taiwan or...yada, yada, to think about WHAT IS AN IDEAL contract. I've seen the crap building up in the last 15 yrs., in E. Asia, to form a wall of dung that is not falling on the side of the barbarian....

We give up a LOT to come over to this part of the world. JET is one of the last schemes to recognize that. When it goes, what's left...pray tell?

Sure, the unqualified, wacko, CPNs should not be welcomed. But when anyone looks at, say, the latest EPIK application form(I thought it was bad a few years ago!), EFLers of all stripes should be saying"enough is enough"! Next year, EPIK will want your credit history and ... credit card no.!

[Plume D'ella Plumeria]

Mosley, thank you for your (correct) assumption that my post was sincere.

I do feel you, as I was first in Japan in 1989 when it was still in its EFL teaching glory days. I had some fabulous teaching positions offering benefits that no longer exist.

I also hear you about what's happened and is happening in Korea. Which is why I'm no longer teaching there. I saw which way the wind was blowing and got myself the heck of Dodge. And cannot imagine going back with how things there are these days.

[olsanairbase]

[isitts]

[isitts]

[edit]

[swashbuckler]

[isitts]

[edit]

[Mosley]

You know, misadventureman(aka swashbuckler )I actually tend to believe you. But that would be midget porn in your case...right, mate?

isitts: for a guy who accuses others of trolling you give off some strong hints of doing it for real, namely...I strongly suspect you were never on JET at all. Or maybe it could be a case similar to the ONE AND ONLY ex-JET I actually met in the flesh who denigrated the programme. A little digging revealed that he was one of a small few who were denied a contract renewal. Very revealing.

Are you seriously comparing the application procedure for JET to that of, say, EPIK?! JET's application process is drawn out but it is reasonable, respectful, logical and has a clear and set timeline. At no time and no point(and this is presently the case as well)was I basically accused of being an alcoholic HIV-infected drug-addicted pedophile. That is what one is faced with in the EPIK Accusation...er, Application. Oh, and you're a forger too, barbarian. Notary publics, apostilles, ....

What would you do, isitts? Have JET "aspire" to EPIK's "organization"? Maybe you'd prefer to have it become like the "prestigious" SMOE. Sure...have newbies go through all the application and visa BS, fly themselves over and be told at Incheon that there are no contracts for the latest intake after all?

BTW you're dead wrong(if you're not being disingenuous)about JET arrival airfare: as always, you're given a pre-paid ticket from the nearest designated airport to Narita. Example: you live in Prince George BC, so you'll fly out of Vancouver. So you have to make your own way to Vancouver. Oh, boo hoo!

Korea is "less socially stifling than Japan"?! See, folks, why I think this guy is trolling?!



Only the childish & dishonest take quotations out of context. Those I referred to with a sense of entitlement were those who took the gravy train for granted, thought they were "better" than the eikaiwa/dispatch co. crowd(I would only agree to the extent that they were "better"in the sense of not taking a contract that offered 200K/mo.) or were oblivious to the fact not every EFLer in Japan was on a JET gravy train.

On the other hand, the qualified, hard-working and well-behaved EFLer in E. Asia DOES deserve a JET-like contract.

[shostahoosier]

First Mosley claimed that the only people who had bad things to say about the JET Programme were people who were either rejected or had never applied/been a JET Teacher.

Now he's widening his definition to include people that actually HAD been accepted to JET but werent renewed.

Next he'll also include people who were former JET teachers, but ate their bread butter side up.

...or....just about any other definition to fit his "brand" of logic.

I guess his logic explains why he hates the NET Scheme; because he was flat out rejected.

[isitts]

I actually was on JET for two years.

[shostahoosier]

[isitts]