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Dude Love
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why bark at an empty room?
Did you make this video yourself, sport? |
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Dude Love
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: reply |
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This isn't an empty room and no, I didn't make the vid. Thanks for your interest! |
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bamboozler
Joined: 18 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: che: False Idol |
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Dude Love wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IZwrltKWVw
He was also racist, ironic when blacks wear his t-shirt. |
Look at the era when he lived, everyone was racist at that time even your prole family of yours! |
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Dude Love
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: reply |
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-The next thing you know you're going to say it was ok that Karl Marx was an anti-Semite. And actually, plenty of people had enough sense not to be racist even back before Che surrendered with a fully loaded weapon and begged for his life after months of being lost in the jungle.
-I'm not from a "prole" family but if I was it wouldn't matter. Anyhow, take care and hope you're enjoying your life in the Samsung Republic and making lots of capital for your boss. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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More barking at an empty room.
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bamboozler
Joined: 18 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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Dude Love wrote: |
-The next thing you know you're going to say it was ok that Karl Marx was an anti-Semite. And actually, plenty of people had enough sense not to be racist even back before Che surrendered with a fully loaded weapon and begged for his life after months of being lost in the jungle.
-I'm not from a "prole" family but if I was it wouldn't matter. Anyhow, take care and hope you're enjoying your life in the Samsung Republic and making lots of capital for your boss. |
As Che would rightly say Dude Love is "el sensitivo," and "pusificato!"
Keep your ear to the grindstone! |
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Dude Love
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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-If that's some kind of homophobic insult then yes, Che might have said that. And if I keep my ear to the grindstone maybe I'll afford a Rolex and live in a mansion with a swimming pool and projection screen television and remote control, as he did.
"Che's homophobia
Che played a principal role in setting up Cuba's first labor camp in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960-1961, to confine people who had committed no crime punishable by law, revolutionary or otherwise. This "crimes" involved drinking, vagrancy, disrespect for authorities, laziness and playing loud music. Che defended that initiative in his own words: �We only send to Guanahacabibes those doubtful cases where we are not sure people should go to jail� people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals, to a lesser or greater degree.... It is hard labor, not brute labor, rather the working conditions there are hard.� [5]
�This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camag�ey, of dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of UMAP, Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producci�n, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the �unfit� would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as N�stor Almendros's wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.� [5]
Che's homophobia is expressed in the poster placed at the entrance to the forced labor camp, where homosexuals were confined, which read: �The work will make you men�', replica of the slogan �The work will make you free� used in the Nazi concentration camps. It intended to correct the homosexual behavior applying rigorous punishments with the intention of modifying this social deviation, which does not constitute a crime punishable by law." |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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You mean people under thirty are gullible retards? Gee I had no idea. |
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bamboozler
Joined: 18 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dude Love wrote: |
-If that's some kind of homophobic insult then yes, Che might have said that. And if I keep my ear to the grindstone maybe I'll afford a Rolex and live in a mansion with a swimming pool and projection screen television and remote control, as he did.
"Che's homophobia
Che played a principal role in setting up Cuba's first labor camp in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960-1961, to confine people who had committed no crime punishable by law, revolutionary or otherwise. This "crimes" involved drinking, vagrancy, disrespect for authorities, laziness and playing loud music. Che defended that initiative in his own words: �We only send to Guanahacabibes those doubtful cases where we are not sure people should go to jail� people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals, to a lesser or greater degree.... It is hard labor, not brute labor, rather the working conditions there are hard.� [5]
�This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camag�ey, of dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of UMAP, Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producci�n, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the �unfit� would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as N�stor Almendros's wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.� [5]
Che's homophobia is expressed in the poster placed at the entrance to the forced labor camp, where homosexuals were confined, which read: �The work will make you men�', replica of the slogan �The work will make you free� used in the Nazi concentration camps. It intended to correct the homosexual behavior applying rigorous punishments with the intention of modifying this social deviation, which does not constitute a crime punishable by law." |
You should work for the history channel, rather than posting some boring thread nobody is reading. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Nah, at the history channel you're going to need substantiated sources, and more than a few quotes and statements taken out of context masquerading as facts. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:13 am Post subject: Re: reply |
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Dude Love wrote: |
-The next thing you know you're going to say it was ok that Karl Marx was an anti-Semite. And actually, plenty of people had enough sense not to be racist even back before Che surrendered with a fully loaded weapon and begged for his life after months of being lost in the jungle.
-I'm not from a "prole" family but if I was it wouldn't matter. Anyhow, take care and hope you're enjoying your life in the Samsung Republic and making lots of capital for your boss. |
Interesting because Karl Marx was Jewish |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Yeah actually the hatred of Marx is quite prominent in anti-Semite propaganda...
But I suppose people will label him either as a degenerate Jew or an anti-Semite depending on their agendas.
Shall we blame Jews for Communism - or save Jews from Communism? The latter usually coming from a superficial reading of "On the Jewish Question" and not realizing that in Marx's time basically every European was an anti-Semite, on both the left and the right.
Ask a European today how he/she feels about gypsies. Nobody cares about that, though. |
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shapeshifter

Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Location: Paris
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Dude Love wrote: |
-If that's some kind of homophobic insult then yes, Che might have said that. And if I keep my ear to the grindstone maybe I'll afford a Rolex and live in a mansion with a swimming pool and projection screen television and remote control, as he did.
"Che's homophobia
Che played a principal role in setting up Cuba's first labor camp in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960-1961, to confine people who had committed no crime punishable by law, revolutionary or otherwise. This "crimes" involved drinking, vagrancy, disrespect for authorities, laziness and playing loud music. Che defended that initiative in his own words: �We only send to Guanahacabibes those doubtful cases where we are not sure people should go to jail� people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals, to a lesser or greater degree.... It is hard labor, not brute labor, rather the working conditions there are hard.� [5]
�This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camag�ey, of dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of UMAP, Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producci�n, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the �unfit� would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as N�stor Almendros's wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.� [5]
Che's homophobia is expressed in the poster placed at the entrance to the forced labor camp, where homosexuals were confined, which read: �The work will make you men�', replica of the slogan �The work will make you free� used in the Nazi concentration camps. It intended to correct the homosexual behavior applying rigorous punishments with the intention of modifying this social deviation, which does not constitute a crime punishable by law." |
Can't we just be adult enough to acknowledge that he was neither a saint nor the embodiment of evil? We can cherry pick positive or negative aspects of his legacy/character all day long but this approach inevitably leads to an incomplete and ultimately meaningless portrait of a significant historical figure. |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, where have you been man? It's not some kind of secret that Che Guevara is basically only idolized by confused high schoolers in the States and everyone else (save brainwashed Cubans) already know he was a moron.
But yeah, that's a horrible video. |
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