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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Another question: what are the women like in China? Are they friendlier than in Korea? |
They're not all the same you know, but in general, yes. China is more open to foreigners (as has been mentioned already), so it naturally follows suit that the women are, too.
Don't expect them to like you because of your nationality though, a lot of them have no intention of leaving China except for holidays.
It's weird how it works, after close to three years in Korea I was sick of it, and China was a breath of 'fresh' air, after close to three years in China Korea is a breath of fresh air, maybe I am doomed to bounce back and forth between the two places? Who knows.
China is boomiing man, it's weird seeing a place developing at such a rapid pace. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| In my earlier posts I was more excited about China. This may be a very superficial reason but I don't like the fact that they ban Facebook, Skype and Youtube. Youtube I can do without but most of my communicating with family and friends is by the former two. Its now a BIG concern for me and has now made Taiwan more attractive. I want to learn mandarin. I heard some cons to the pros of Taiwan and put it a little down on my list but now I'm reconsidering. |
worse than that...internet is slow and the gov ain't interested in making it any faster.
I have more trouble with the slow ass speeds more than anything |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| sirius black wrote: |
| In my earlier posts I was more excited about China. This may be a very superficial reason but I don't like the fact that they ban Facebook, Skype and Youtube. Youtube I can do without but most of my communicating with family and friends is by the former two. Its now a BIG concern for me and has now made Taiwan more attractive. I want to learn mandarin. I heard some cons to the pros of Taiwan and put it a little down on my list but now I'm reconsidering. |
worse than that...internet is slow and the gov ain't interested in making it any faster.
I have more trouble with the slow ass speeds more than anything |
It's not that slow, you guys make it sound like a snail's pace, just get high-speed Internet, it costs like what, 100RMB a month? And youku.com and tudou.com load very fast there, tons of movies and TV shows on those sites. |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, China. Do you mean am I considering dying of cancer in the prime of my life? I did a year in China, coughing black gunk all the time, getting sick every two weeks, discovering allergies that I had never known I had--which took a couple of years to get flushed out of my immune system. Getting stuck in the middle of huge and unbalanced crowds of heckling and shouting Chinese, crapping on the sidewalks. And that nasty feeling of vulnerability that comes with living in such an authoritarian society. One year is enough for this lifetime. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, China. Do you mean am I considering dying of cancer in the prime of my life? I did a year in China, coughing black gunk all the time, getting sick every two weeks, discovering allergies that I had never known I had--which took a couple of years to get flushed out of my immune system. Getting stuck in the middle of huge and unbalanced crowds of heckling and shouting Chinese, crapping on the sidewalks. And that nasty feeling of vulnerability that comes with living in such an authoritarian society. One year is enough for this lifetime. |
You were in Taiyuan? China is big, places like Chengdu, Nanjing, Dalian, Suzhou etc are nothing like what you just described. |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| metalhead wrote: |
You were in Taiyuan? China is big, places like Chengdu, Nanjing, Dalian, Suzhou etc are nothing like what you just described. |
I was in Shandong province, but traveled quite a bit, especially along the east coast. It's a big country, so I know you're right. That nasty feeling and the pea soup pollution seemed to be everywhere, though. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| Lastrova wrote: |
| Ah, China. Do you mean am I considering dying of cancer in the prime of my life? I did a year in China, coughing black gunk all the time, getting sick every two weeks, discovering allergies that I had never known I had--which took a couple of years to get flushed out of my immune system. Getting stuck in the middle of huge and unbalanced crowds of heckling and shouting Chinese, crapping on the sidewalks. And that nasty feeling of vulnerability that comes with living in such an authoritarian society. One year is enough for this lifetime. |
They heckled you? What did they say? |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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They heckled you? What did they say? |
Not me. Each other in a very strange way. You could see the emotion pass through the crowd when a couple of men started arguing with each other, pushing and smacking each others arms. There was this rippling effect. And then it would start up again somewhere else. And again and again and again. What were they arguing about? God knows, but from the look of it, it was about money. Go figure. We were all waiting to buy bus tickets at the bus station. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Assuming major cities like Beijing and Shanghai and making at least 8,000 or maybe even 10,000 RMB and a couple of privates, can you live comfortably there? Do most places in this pay range give decent apartments? Also, are there amenities, such as health clubs? With this "higher salary" and free apartment, can you live cheaply and still send money home each month to pay your student loans? I would think my most expensive thing would be a gym membership and maybe trying to buy the odd western food item? How do things stack up? I also assume there might be a way to take some Chinese lessons? Please give some feedback based on your experiences. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming major cities like Beijing and Shanghai and making at least 8,000 or maybe even 10,000 RMB and a couple of privates, can you live comfortably there? Do most places in this pay range give decent apartments? Also, are there amenities, such as health clubs? With this "higher salary" and free apartment, can you live cheaply and still send money home each month to pay your student loans? I would think my most expensive thing would be a gym membership and maybe trying to buy the odd western food item? How do things stack up? I also assume there might be a way to take some Chinese lessons? Please give some feedback based on your experiences.
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I would be interested in this as well |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I considered going to China, and I did enjoy reading the posts from Mr Pink.
The place I'd want to go is close to the NK border, Dandong/Shenzen and talk to the migrant Koreans. Got a feeling that would be a mighty interesting year.
What is preventing me from wanting to go is the fact that it is dirty, pollution/sanitation/food preparation services are way below what I want for myself on a regular basis.
Also, it seems the government suppresses any attempt to modernize and/or improve the general welfare of its citizens
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8478195.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11811867
I wouldn't feel safe in China. Money isn't everything. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| If I knew what I did know ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_oKve-bH0 ) I would've moved to China or Vietnam. Now, I have a Korean girlfriend. I'm not going anywhere for the time being. |
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MyCarmaRanOverYourDogma
Joined: 09 Aug 2010
Location: America
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| markhan wrote: |
| rollo wrote: |
| Spot on about Westerners changing the culture of China. But this is something the Chinese want. They realize that they have to modernize, Westernize. In that respect it is much more advanced than the Korean mindset. Yes it is Cantonese in Hong Kong, but almost everyone speaks English and most some Mandarin. it is Mandarin that should be studied it is the official language. As wages for nets increase in big Red there will be more coming here. Korea is going to have to up the salaries to keep attracting teachers. |
Care to elaborate on that? I find Chinese to be more "inward" than Korean. Chinese are extremely proud of their history (and I might add, they have many reasons to be so). Their country name is "middle kingdom" with a good reason.
On the other hand, in regard to foreign students, Korean students make up the third largest in the State (phenomenal number given that 1st and 2nd are China and India) 2nd largest in Japan (used to be the first a decade ago), the largest in China (whopping 32% of all foreign students), as well as countless numbers in England, Australia, and so on.
It's really funny that many foreigners I know share my opinion that Koreans are very outward looking. It is only in this forum (maybe because they are stuck teaching English to less mobile citizens) that they accuse Koreans of being inward and xenophobic. |
Actually I don't find Chinese to be very inward at all. I am an African Female and had the pleasure of staying with a Chinese family for two weeks in Tianjin, China (it is about an hour bullet train ride from Beijing), and they treated me like their own daughter. As much as I love Asian culture especially Chinese I was terrified of going because I honestly thought I'd be discriminated against that was not the case at all. They were so interested in me and even in Beijing people were incredibly nice. China is not "inward" all the Chinese people I've met are very respectful to people. No I'm not saying all Chinese are nice just the ones I've met. My friend is Korean and she thinks it's funny to tell me a story about someone using the "N" word and she'll actually say it. She always talk about the fact that I can't act "black" or she'll say your so "white", so to be an educated black person that doesn't speak ebonics I'm acting "white". What is acting black can someone explain that to me African-American culture isn't the only one there, there is an entire content full of black people called Africa and I can guarantee you none of them act "black". Her brother seems to have a better filter than her, but he does come rude at times. Did I mention that she absolutely hates America, for in my opinion no good reason. Basically what I'm saying is people have their own perspectives on whats "inward" or "outward", but I wouldn't be fast to judge because what you get from the media or other people is just one perspective, their perspective, before placing judgment visit those countries and explore them before you decide and even when you do you can't generalize an entire nation. Off of my experiences I could decide that stepping onto Korean soil would be a bad idea, and going to China would be a good one, but the world isn't black and white, and what I call a masterpiece you could say is a bunch of cans piled on top of one another.  |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: |
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I was just in Shanghai. Apartments are very, very expensive. I was told the country's full anem was China: Apartments Unavailable.
I was just there to transfer planes but the fog/pollution was so bad you could barely see the skyline. |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
I was just in Shanghai. Apartments are very, very expensive. I was told the country's full anem was China: Apartments Unavailable.
I was just there to transfer planes but the fog/pollution was so bad you could barely see the skyline. |
How much per square meters if you don't mind me asking? |
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