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[Murph]

With the recent hostage rescue using South Korean special forces soldiers I began pondering the fact that since 9/11 special forces have really come into their own. No longer thought of as snake eaters in the back room, struggling to survive on a measly budget. These days special forces in all countries have become much more prominent with increased budgets, increased manpower, better equipment etc...

I am certainly no military expert, and I welcome more informed people (military guys and gals that read this forum especially) to step up and help out, but it seems to me that there is a growing trend of nations sending their special forces units abroad. It seems to me that when I was a kid only the SAS and US Special Forces soldiers, and Soviet spcial forces soldiers were sent abroad. I am sure that other nations sent their special forces abroad within their region, for example South African special forces soldiers have probably always been used within Southern Africa, but beyond that I have never really known other nations to send their special forces soldiers outside of their spheres of control to influence global issues the same way the British and the US have done. As an example, in the past Korea wouldn't have been able to conduct such a mission, and it would have been unheard of to read that Korea sent special forces soldiers thousands of miles abroad.

I am firstly wondering if you agree or disagree with me. It could be that most countries have been conducting secret operations but they just don't get made into blockbuster movies. Furthermore, if you feel that such a trend is on the increase where do you think it will lead? Could you invision other countries experienceing their own "Blackhawk Down" in the future? Also, since sending troops abroad really indicates that a nation itself is playing a larger role in the world do you expect to see future clashes among powerful nation states over regional issues? For example in the past if there was an issue somewhere in the world perhaps only the US was powerful enough to go in and help/police it while other countries could do nothing, but what if in the future other countries send in their own teams to help/police, and the goals of the two powerful countries are juxtaposed to one another? Will we see special forces clashes, or will this lead future 'Cold Wars'?

Personally I don't know. I don't really have enough information, but I konw that countries like China, and India are becoming more powerful each day, and as time goes by they are less and less likely to just sit on the international sidelines while others countries "police the world"

[hellofaniceguy]

Vessels flying under their countries flag are afforded "protection" to some degree.
History has shown that special ops do go into countries/vessels, etc. and do what needs to be done. It's usually not made public and if so, countries deny it.
This case....korea had no reason to deny it and made it public for a few reasons....to show the pirates that the korean govt will take action and hopefully the pirates will not mess with another korean vessel and the koreans wanted to show the world that they have special ops, etc...
The korean special ops are no better than any other countries special ops...meaning, they all spend everyday practicing their skills and get good at it.
They also train together with other countries. And many times will jointly be inserted together on a mission.
The US will NOT take on China or insert troops....all hell would break loose and the US would loose....which is why the US is not going after NK....the Chinese would help NK and of course the US does not want to mess with China. Fighting the Chinese on their on land would be suicidal.
The US sticks with invading countries or taking on those that it thinks it can win or where the countries won't or can't fight back.
The US lost big time in Vietnam....and that's a small country...imagine taking on China!
The US also "lost" The Battle of Chosin when China entered the conflict. The UN troops did inflict a crippling loss on the Chinese but left the area before the Chinese could regroup and send in more troops.
Special ops were used during that time as well.
"Blackhawk Down" type affairs happen from time to time where special ops go in but they, special ops are just that...special. They are not able to sustain a long term conflict and are used to get in, do the job and hopefully get out before anyone is wiser.

[Died By Bear]

Everything you know about anything is engineered that way from the start. Believe it or not, it's all an elaborate scheme to keep us thinking that we live in a 'global' society. The Europeans have known it for a long time, Americans are just waking up...for the last 30-40 years anyway...

The stuff that really goes on in the black ops world, and that you and I will never know about - will forever and always be done in such a way that there are no indicators that would point evidence to the real perpetrators. That's the beauty of black ops. If no one can definitively say who done it, it is all an illusion. Ghost, ghost baby.

In fact, there are people that are alerted anytime you say something on a cell phone that triggers a red flag response (RFR). If you trigger an RFR more than 10 times in a day, you can expect the men in black (NSA) to pay you a visit, or at least look into the possibility that you may be a person of interest. This is the digital age, no one is safe. Not even you OP. You started a thread about this stuff in a country that is known throughout the world for it's fiesty northern brother. Do you not believe that someone in the SK government is wondering who you are RIGHT NOW??? Just because you think you have the freedom to post what you want on the internet doesn't guarantee your survival...
















I'm kidding of course, I made all that stuff up. Haven't a clue really.

[misher]

Couldn't the French Foreign Legion be thrown into the mix as well?

France's mercenary army is basically one big special ops unit. The training is insane and the soldiers are guaranteed combat by being sent into hostile areas unbeknownst to the French public. If (*&^ hits the fan the public won't care anyway because the soldiers that died aren't French. The French government can also deny a lot for the same reason.

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[seoulsucker]

Wow...just browsing that site I find it unreal that the US has the most railway coverage of any country in the world...yet people there still drive EVERYWHERE.