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Ken S
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: Reputable recruiters for South Korea |
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| Hi there. I was wondering if anyone can give me the names of some recruiters they or their friends have used and were happy with? Thanks. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Reputable recruiters for South Korea |
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| Ken S wrote: |
| Hi there. I was wondering if anyone can give me the names of some recruiters they or their friends have used and were happy with? Thanks. |
Good post.
1st post here and you have already proved that you can't read, scroll down the page to last weeks identical query (or the other 52 similar queries over the last year) and didn't look at the FAQs. http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewforum.php?f=7
There are about 300 recruiters/recruiting firms looking for teachers for South Korea.
ALL of them have had happy placements and ALL of them have had complaints listed.
Being the rude and pompous azz that I am I will freely re-quote a post that has been posted here about 100 times before:
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As far as a recruiter goes...
Use as many as you need to find the job you want , with the benefits you want, in the area you want, at the time you want.
A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer. They are a necessary evil and a means to an end.
Hello Mr. English speaker this is Mr hagwon owner.
Mr. hagwon owner, this is Mr. English speaker.
Mr. English speaker, here is the contract. Please read and sign.
School, here is the signed contract. Pay me.
Good bye.
You are not paying them anything (or you shouldn't be).
THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU! - They work for the school.
They owe you nothing once you get here.
They are not your friend.
They are not your baby sitter.
They cannot help you if things go to *beep* after you get here.
Beyond that it is YOUR responsibility to check the school out.
Do NOT trust ANY recruiter. They are like used car salesmen. They will lie and sell their soul to get the signature on the contract.
Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE in regards to the school or get burned.
Use the recruiters for what they are - a bridge to a job that you wouldn't otherwise be able to find - just like a salesman on a car lot.
You walk onto the lot and see what they have on offer. If you see something you like then you stay and talk to the salesman. Then, if you are still interested, it is YOUR responsibility get it checked out.
If it checks out then you sign the contract and drive away with your new job.
If nothing from the recruiter appeals to you you move on to the next one and look some more.
Use more than one and keep going until you get what you want. There is no rush and there is certainly no shortage of jobs.
When it comes to the school - again - repeat - Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
The hard questions to ask AND get acceptable answers to ARE:
-What are the hours? (start time / stop time / breaks).
-How many classes per day, week, month? NOT hour many hours per month. 30 classroom hours can mean anything from 1350 -1800 minutes per week standing in front of the class. The difference can be up to 7.5 HOURS in front of the class EACH WEEK.
-Do they ALWAYS pay on time? (no=red flag 1)
-Do they pay at the end of your month or do they have a hold back period (5-10 days after your month end) to prevent runners? (no=red flag 2)
-Do they really pay overtime or avoid it with creative book keeping? (no=red flag 3)
-Do you get credit for classes on the national holidays or do you get the day off but still have to work your 120 hours before you get overtime? (no=red flag 4)
-Do they have national medical (with the little booklet)? (no=red flag 5)
-Do they pay into pension? (no=red flag 6) These two are legal requirements (not optional) and are usually NOT complied with (to your detriment).
-What about the holidays? 10 or more WORKING days? (legal requirement here) (no=red flag 7)
-When and how do you get your holidays?
-What extra stuff do you really have to do - mentioned or not in the contract.
-Then consider the quality of life issues - things that are important to you that aren't mentioned here (housing, furnishings, THE BATHROOM, access to recreational facilities, shopping, banking).
Do they take additional deposits in addition to the delay in payday? (yes=red flag Cool
I would also like to mention for comparison:
My co-worker (at a public school) who is a green as grass, fresh off the boat newbie gets a base salary of 2.1 mil per month for 22 classes of 40 minutes each.
She gets 20k won for each 40 minute class over 22 per week and works from 8:30-4:30 each day. She usually averages 26 classes per week and her salary works out to about 2.5 mil per month.
She also gets (as required by law and ignored by most hakwons) NHIC medical, pension, severance, non-shared housing, airfare and 4 weeks annual PAID vacation.
Do NOT be in a rush to sign anything. There is NO rush or urgency in spite of what your recruiter may tell you.
Take your time. The job (or more likely a better one) will still be there next week and probably next month too.
There are 30,000 openings in Korea each year and only about 25,000 applicants to fill those jobs each year.
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: |
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reputable? may I say it? ok, i will...
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but dont worry, just dont be in a hurry and look around, dont take one recruiters info. theyre all in a world of hurt and are not making the oney they used to...but theyre busy as nuts trying to get people in. theres job here, and some good ones, just look. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Well I can't really match the smackdown that was layeth open this thread, but I can echo what someone said with my own real world experience.
Use as many as you can, and find the right job for YOU. Don't listen to what they say, review the CONTRACT to the best of your ability and make a decision. Yea many recruiters do pressure just ignore it, be PICKY, take your time, and you'll be fine. |
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please_understand
Joined: 25 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| All recruiters are honest and reputable. The same is true with hagwon owners. Any difficulties you may encounter are due to cultural differences. Please understand. |
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