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rockymtn
Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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jrwhite82- Don't focus on what Korean school systems are doing. Focus on the techniques you are using in the classroom. There should be a few classroom management tools you can discuss. US schools want you to be able to specify what you can bring to a classroom. Prepare to share a few cultural experiences you had in Korea. How has this cultural experience changed your approach to teaching? I've been on a handful of school interview teams and when you are dealing with many qualified teachers you need to stand out. Your experience in Korea would put you on the top of many lists of candidates but you need to articulate how it makes you a better candidate than the rest. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing I like about the schools I taught at in Korea, is that teachers and students had high morale and there was a sense that what they were doing was important. I can already hear the snickers from the peanut gallery, but I actually thought the Korean teachers were very professional and serious about their jobs. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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rockymtn wrote: |
jrwhite82- Don't focus on what Korean school systems are doing. Focus on the techniques you are using in the classroom. |
I think both are valuable. If you plan on teaching permanently, there will probably be some point in your career you'll be asked to reflect on your experiences all across the board. |
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zappadelta

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I like the fact that teaching is a highly regarded profession here. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Things that I like about the Korean system better than Canada:
1) Teachers get respect by the students
2) Students wear uniforms
3) Students are in a cohort system, which leads them to make good friends as they are typically with the same group throughout middle/high school.
4) Students are taught to work hard, and thus overall have a higher work ethic. I don't know many students back in Canada that studied until 1-2am on a regular basis.
5) Korea focuses on math from an early age and has a better system of teaching it than Canada. It seems that Korea rewards "good" math teachers so that they are able to retain excellent math teachers in both schools and hawgwons. In Canada those good with math usually go into something more lucrative.
6) No drugs
7) The system weeds out those who aren't meant to go to university, and puts those kids into a separate high school. Having studious students with those who will do labor jobs back in Canada usually leads to a plethora of problems, especially for teachers.
Things I am not fond of:
1) no elevators. We had 5 floors at my school and when a kid broke his leg, he had to be carried by his buddies up the stairs. WTF?
2) windows on the wall of the classroom beside the hallway. I always found this annoying and distracting, as someone would always have the windows open and a loud class spreading that sound.
3) heat situation in winter, A/C situation in summer: no consistency and usually it results in staff and students getting sick
4) those free lunches: after a while it gets boring. For the students the lunches aren't free, and those who think they are should ask their students about it.
5) Korean teacher classroom management techniques |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink wrote: |
Things that I like about the Korean system better than Canada:
4) Students are taught to work hard, and thus overall have a higher work ethic. I don't know many students back in Canada that studied until 1-2am on a regular basis.
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A strong work ethic is good, but a balanced work ethic is better. I would not want my high school kid to be up to 1-am studying.
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5) Korea focuses on math from an early age and has a better system of teaching it than Canada. It seems that Korea rewards "good" math teachers so that they are able to retain excellent math teachers in both schools and hawgwons. In Canada those good with math usually go into something more lucrative.
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Koreans have a better attitude yes, but I don't agree with teaching technique and they are using the same dull, repetitive techniques we've been using in the West for the past hundred years or so. I also think although the Korean system produces students better at calculating, but not necessarily better 'math' students. There's a lot more to math and sciences than going through the motions of solving textbook problems.
As far as teaching technique goes, I think more exciting stuff is coming out of American schools.
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7) The system weeds out those who aren't meant to go to university, and puts those kids into a separate high school. Having studious students with those who will do labor jobs back in Canada usually leads to a plethora of problems, especially for teachers.
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Korea's University grad percentage is on par with Canada's (and that's not a bad thing.) In Canada students are separated at high school too. There are tech high schools, and in cities not big enough to have separate high schools the students are usually separated by level, for example 'Careers', 'Academic', and 'Honours'. There's not as many specialty high schools like foreign language high schools or whatever, but I personally don't see it as a bad thing that that's the case.
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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silkhighway wrote: |
rockymtn wrote: |
jrwhite82- Don't focus on what Korean school systems are doing. Focus on the techniques you are using in the classroom. |
I think both are valuable. If you plan on teaching permanently, there will probably be some point in your career you'll be asked to reflect on your experiences all across the board. |
I agree with you. 100%. But I feel like I've identified the "big picture" ideals and strategies that Korea uses so effectively. What I'm looking for is something that says, "In Korea, I learned/observed this in the classroom. __________ happened. So the teacher ____________. This is something that I think would be effective in the US."
If I'm interviewing for a job as a teacher, I really don't get a say in how the entire district feeds the students on the free/reduced meal plan. So while, an excellent example of something that their school systems do better, it's not something that I could really use in a classroom.
I feel like I haven't seen another teacher do something yet and felt, "Wow! I haven't seen that before. What an awesome management technique. Or wow, that's a creative way of presenting this material." That's what I'm looking for.
One thing I like is the technology we have in the classrooms. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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jrwhite82 wrote: |
silkhighway wrote: |
rockymtn wrote: |
jrwhite82- Don't focus on what Korean school systems are doing. Focus on the techniques you are using in the classroom. |
I think both are valuable. If you plan on teaching permanently, there will probably be some point in your career you'll be asked to reflect on your experiences all across the board. |
I agree with you. 100%. But I feel like I've identified the "big picture" ideals and strategies that Korea uses so effectively. What I'm looking for is something that says, "In Korea, I learned/observed this in the classroom. __________ happened. So the teacher ____________. This is something that I think would be effective in the US."
If I'm interviewing for a job as a teacher, I really don't get a say in how the entire district feeds the students on the free/reduced meal plan. So while, an excellent example of something that their school systems do better, it's not something that I could really use in a classroom.
I feel like I haven't seen another teacher do something yet and felt, "Wow! I haven't seen that before. What an awesome management technique. Or wow, that's a creative way of presenting this material." That's what I'm looking for.
One thing I like is the technology we have in the classrooms. |
As far as handling a classroom, I can't think of anything specific to Korea. In the end, we're all individuals. In North America, you have to be careful about making rash generalizations about how things are done in different cultures anyways and you're better off limiting to it your experiences with your co-teacher than trying to generalize to the larger Korean society. I would bring up my experiences team-teaching, and compare and contrast team teachers and some of the techniques and nuances they've had. |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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silkhighway wrote: |
As far as teaching technique goes, I think more exciting stuff is coming out of American schools. |
Thanks for that link. |
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olsanairbase
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Destroy teacher unions and marginalize the teaching profession to a job rather than a career.
**** This is quickly changing though as the wave of inexperienced, at-will charter schools spread like wild fire laying waste to collective bargaining agreements one after the next....... |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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silkhighway wrote: |
As far as handling a classroom, I can't think of anything specific to Korea. In the end, we're all individuals. In North America, you have to be careful about making rash generalizations about how things are done in different cultures anyways and you're better off limiting to it your experiences with your co-teacher than trying to generalize to the larger Korean society. I would bring up my experiences team-teaching, and compare and contrast team teachers and some of the techniques and nuances they've had. |
That's a great point about coteaching. I know back in the US coteaching is all the rage right now. The further schools continue to incorporate inclusion, the more coteaching we will need to do back home. So it is very common to have a special educator, ESL teacher or teacher's assistant in the classroom. Traditionally, having one teacher give the kids dirty looks or work ONLY with a special education student is not the way most principals want to see you coteaching. There really isn't much cooperation in that. They want to see two teachers working together, splitting up the class into smaller groups, etc... |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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when droves of non-Koreans come to Korea and get their children educated, then I think your question would hold more weight. |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
when droves of non-Koreans come to Korea and get their children educated, then I think your question would hold more weight. |
Right, I'd also like to point out that there are NO international(overseas) Korean schools in other countries.
Funny how that works.
Korean Education scores in the bottom 30% in the OECD, maybe that's why.
what I see in Korea is a lack of diversity and curriculum implementation across the board. No planning is evident by any Korean teacher I have ever met in my 3.5 years here. The education system doesn't take into account any learning difference or student need.
I have had kids doing tests (beyond their capabilities) that are being judged based on their peers scores for their performance mark. From a marking standpoint that's absolutely asinine!
Korean teachers need MUCH better training than they're getting. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Seoul'n'Corea wrote: |
Korean Education scores in the bottom 30% in the OECD, maybe that's why. |
But why in the bottom 30%? The South Korean public only encourages academic education. It would be better if it encourages both vocational and academic education.
I think the only best thing about the South Korean education system is the elementary education. |
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blm
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Seoul'n'Corea wrote: |
Right, I'd also like to point out that there are NO international(overseas) Korean schools in other countries.
Funny how that works.
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Maybe i'm misunderstanding you but their are Korean schools in Japan and Australia* and I read an article about hogwons in America.
*It's not really possible to start a full time regular Korean school in Australia so they have a saturday school and the kids go to their regular private/public school monday to friday and Korean school on Saturday. |
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