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Jaspina



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: Key money Reply with quote

I was wondering, if you can't/don't pay your rent, do the landlords deduct it out of your key money or do they just take it all for reneging? Do you sign leases in Korea or is it on a month-to-month basis?
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uklathemock



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Key money Reply with quote

Jaspina wrote:
I was wondering, if you can't/don't pay your rent, do the landlords deduct it out of your key money or do they just take it all for reneging? Do you sign leases in Korea or is it on a month-to-month basis?


I've rented three apartments. You usually sign a one year lease agreement. If you choose not to pay your rent, the landlord can and will deduct it from your key money. However, the landlord could also evict you for reneging on the terms of the lease, but they will return your key money.

One annoying thing about renting in Korea, is in some cases, they will not return your key money until your flat has been rented out to a new tenant. Therefore, you're just taking the new tenant's key money. But, you can live rent free until your key money is returned.
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rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you cant afford the ridiculous amount of key money you can look into a hasuk. If you don't mind sharing some amenities.
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Jaspina



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. The key money is going to kill me when I'm there and looking for a place.
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uklathemock



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaspina wrote:
Thanks. The key money is going to kill me when I'm there and looking for a place.


Recently, a lot of landlords are accepting less key money, but raising the monthly rent.

10 million key and 500,000 a month is pretty easy to find in Seoul.
You can negotiate for 5 million key and 600,000 a month.
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freddy teacher



Joined: 01 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uklathemock wrote:
Jaspina wrote:
Thanks. The key money is going to kill me when I'm there and looking for a place.


Recently, a lot of landlords are accepting less key money, but raising the monthly rent.

10 million key and 500,000 a month is pretty easy to find in Seoul.
You can negotiate for 5 million key and 600,000 a month.


you should specify what type of accommodations these figures are for, as they are definitely not for newer officetels in central seoul..

i was paying 10,000,000w down and 650,000w (rent) + 150,000w (utilities/maintenance) for a fairly new 200sq/ft place (yea, a shoebox).

by the little research i did last time, i came to the conclusion that for every 5,000,000w u drop, they might lower the rent 50,000/month.

u can get old villas in itaewon for like 3 mil down and 450,000w/month. but not officetels.
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Jaspina



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's an officetel? And what is the difference between an officetel and a villa? I will be working from home a bit so I need peace and quiet at times. I'm willing to pay more rent for a lower key money deposit, but I don't want to live in Itaewon. Preferable places would be Sinchon and Ehwa.
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Jaspina



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's an officetel? And what is the difference between an officetel and a villa? I will be working from home a bit so I need peace and quiet at times. I'm willing to pay more rent for a lower key money deposit, but I don't want to live in Itaewon. Preferable places would be Sinchon and Ehwa.
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freddy teacher



Joined: 01 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An officetel is a building that has offices in the first 4 or 5 floors, and residences/offices above that. You can use it as an office, but it is for people to live in more than anything else.

these generally tend to be a 1 bedroom studio with a bathroom. They tend to be a little newer and more expensive. Mine had hardwood floor, a western bathroom, large window, (floor to ceiling), fridge, washer/dryer, etc...

A villa is the older style accommodations, possibly 2 or 3 floors with a few apartments. They tend to have 1 or 2 bedrooms, a family room, kitchen, etc..
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt I'll get the spelling correct on this, but here it goes

Wolsae a lower deposit where you also pay monthly rent. Our current place was 20m for the deposit and 500,000 per month (that was 2 1/2 years ago)

Chonsae is the larger deposit where you don't have to pay rent. I can't remember exactly, but I think our apartment would have been 80-90 m.

It is getting less common for chonsae because of the housing market. We were considering putting down the larger deposit, but it is harder to find landlords who will agree to it. As someone else said, most now want wolsae and a higher rent payment.

BTW, if you rent an apartment, you need to pay a fee to the real estate agent. I have no idea what the current rate is for renting.
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freddy teacher



Joined: 01 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is a table of fees, and it all depends on how big your place is.

for an officetel, because it is considered commercial space (even though you can live in it), they charge you the maximum, which is about 450,000w.

For a villa/apartment of equal size, that is zoned for residential living, you're looking at about 200,000w to 300,000w.

If you go get a 1500sqf apartment, well then im sure you'll have to pay more. im just assuming that most of the people here aren't going to be able to afford that, so it doesnt really matter...
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Jaspina



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! The officetel sounds like what I need because I'll be working from home. I'm willing to pay higher rent for less key money. I guess I'll just try to negotiate when I get there.
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uklathemock



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaspina wrote:
Thanks! The officetel sounds like what I need because I'll be working from home. I'm willing to pay higher rent for less key money. I guess I'll just try to negotiate when I get there.


You should also ask if there are any monthly building maintenance fees. These can vary. My current place is around 100,000 a month. In Korean, it's 관리비. The first villa I rented in Seoul didn't have one. [/list]
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