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we dont receive severance pay for EPIK Seoul?
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wotsit2004



Joined: 17 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: we dont receive severance pay for EPIK Seoul? Reply with quote

ive just received my contract, and it looks like we get an exit allowance, but not severance pay - unless we extend the contract. maybe someone else could clarify/ confirm for me.

here is an excerpt:

If the aggregate period of extending the term of Employment pursuant to Article 10 is more than one calendar year, Employer shall pay Employee one month salary as a severance pay for Employee's continuous employment of one year; according to the severance payment regulations when the Employee leaves SMOE.

(Article 10 is about renewing the contract for a year.)

thanks
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't dodge paying severance pay. It's Korean labor law that every employee that has worked 12 continuous months (not one day short) is to be paid one month's full salary.

This isn't actually a severance pay, but is a payment to make up for the way Korean employers pay employees. That is, you are paid for only 4 weeks each month - but some months have 5 weeks - and the severance pay is to compensate for that.

Re-check your contract. It will be in there somewhere.
If not, ring the Labor Board.

Good luck.
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soyoungmikey



Joined: 29 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually you are both a bit off base.

1) If you work 12 continuous months you are entitled to one months pay

2) Technically it is not severence pay. Under Korean law it is stated as a retirement benefit

So OP no worries, work the full year and you'll get it.

Cheers
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
but some months have 5 weeks


I would love for you to show me a month that has 5 weeks in it.

When you can't, please acknowledge that your post was incorrect. We are (or at least almost all of us are) paid a monthly salary. That salary is paid monthly. It covers all work done in a single month. If that month has more days than another, you get the same salary. At least, except for overtime that is.
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tigershark



Joined: 13 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he means a pay period. some pay periods have 5 weeks... no one likes a smart ass. smart ass.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should get exit allowance (1.3m) plus severance (approx. one month's pay).
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tigershark wrote:
he means a pay period. some pay periods have 5 weeks... no one likes a smart ass. smart ass.


No, no pay period has 5 weeks in it unless it varies month to month. If that is the case, then you are in the minority of people who are working here.

Each pay period is monthly (except for the minority, which I'm disregarding because EPIK is not in that minority). That means that each period can be a maximum of 31 days. Now, even assuming that one month the pay day falls on a Saturday thus meaning you get paid on Friday and the next falls on a Sunday, meaning you might get paid on a Monday, that would still only be 33 days, not the 5 weeks.

I'd still love to be shown how any month, or pay period, can be 5 weeks long for a monthly-paid worker.

Oh, and I'm guessing not many people like a dumb ass, dumb ass.
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tigershark



Joined: 13 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong. Many people like dumb asses.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the bonus was only legally guaranteed if you were contracted for a full 40 hours a week (which almost all of us, including public schools, are not). That means teaching hours.
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wotsit2004



Joined: 17 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i phoned SMOE. they confirmed for me that i will get severance pay as long as i finish the contracted period of time: 01/03/2011 - 29/02/2012. Smile
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wotsit2004 wrote:
i phoned SMOE. they confirmed for me that i will get severance pay as long as i finish the contracted period of time: 01/03/2011 - 29/02/2012. Smile


Yep. That's the normal deal. Just be very careful to complete the full contract (not one day less - or you could lose it).

Good luck.
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the difference between severance and pension?
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pension is the Korean National Pension Scheme or whatever its called. It is a monthly deduction from your paycheck. Your employer must match that deduction. So you are both paying 50/50. At the end of your contract you can go to the pension office with your exiting plane ticket and ARC and get that money sent to you when you leave the country. So it basically comes out to around a free 400,000 to 500,000 Won (your employer's half at the end). This is a major reason why you should not sign on as an independent contractor, because your employer does not have to pay this.

Severance is when your boss pays you an average of your last three months pay at the end of every contract year.
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daskalos



Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrwhite82 wrote:
Pension is the Korean National Pension Scheme or whatever its called. It is a monthly deduction from your paycheck. Your employer must match that deduction. So you are both paying 50/50. At the end of your contract you can go to the pension office with your exiting plane ticket and ARC and get that money sent to you when you leave the country. So it basically comes out to around a free 400,000 to 500,000 Won (your employer's half at the end). This is a major reason why you should not sign on as an independent contractor, because your employer does not have to pay this.

Severance is when your boss pays you an average of your last three months pay at the end of every contract year.


On your pension calculation ... what? You pay 4.5 percent of every thing you make, your employer kicks in another 4.5. When you leave Korea, you go to apply for your pension refund, that is, 9 percent of everything, including your yearly bonus. That has worked out for me to be something over 2,000,000 Won per year.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true...my bad.
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