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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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 Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| silkhighway wrote: |
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5) Korea focuses on math from an early age and has a better system of teaching it than Canada. It seems that Korea rewards "good" math teachers so that they are able to retain excellent math teachers in both schools and hawgwons. In Canada those good with math usually go into something more lucrative. |
Interesting. One of my friends was a math teacher for the best part of 3 decades before coming to Korea. He told me that the teaching of math here is abysmal. Mind you, he's not from Canada. |
I never had a decent math teacher. They are in SO much demand, there are lots of people who go and take the minimum qualifications to teach math just so they can get a job. How can that sort of teacher compare to someone with a 4 year math degree who knows math inside and out? |
Even as a secondary subject, in Ontario and most other provinces you need 18 credits of university math. That will probably include a full year of calculus, linear algebra/stats, and most likely at least one course that will give you an introduction to mathematical rigour That's enough to teach high school. |
I don't know where you got your information. In Ontario, to do a B.Ed with intermediate/senior (7-12) you need 8 credits in your primary teachable and only THREE credits in your secondary teachable. Tell me how effective a math teacher who was really an English/history teacher that went and did 3 university credits of math really is when it comes to teaching high school math. Also, they don't need 80%+ in those credits, just passing grades. From my B.Ed cohort 3 people have gone back to do math credits so that they can teach math...pretty sad, no?
In Korea I have met some awesome math teachers - ones that made me wish they were my HS math teacher. There is enough prestige and financial reward that Korea has no problems getting very qualified math teachers for their middle/high schools.
My cousin was doing the math B.Ed program at Waterloo. He ended up giving it up when being offered a $60,000 job right after graduation in computer consulting. He makes over $100,000 a year and doesn't work nearly as hard as teachers do. That is what happens to people good at math in Canada. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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Even as a secondary subject, in Ontario and most other provinces you need 18 credits of university math. That will probably include a full year of calculus, linear algebra/stats, and most likely at least one course that will give you an introduction to mathematical rigour That's enough to teach high school. |
I don't know where you got your information. In Ontario, to do a B.Ed with intermediate/senior (7-12) you need 8 credits in your primary teachable and only THREE credits in your secondary teachable.
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You need threee full year courses (hence, 18 credits) for it to be a secondary.
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Tell me how effective a math teacher who was really an English/history teacher that went and did 3 university credits of math really is when it comes to teaching high school math.
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I think if someone is capable of completing three full year university math courses they are fine to teach high school math. You will NOT get a mark higher than a C in a university calculus course if you do not know high school level math inside out.
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Also, they don't need 80%+ in those credits, just passing grades. From my B.Ed cohort 3 people have gone back to do math credits so that they can teach math...pretty sad, no?
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Absolutely not. All the best to them, thye're training for where the demand is, which is what we need more teachers to do. If we waited until we had experts in every field, we wouldn't have any teachers at all. You can write it off as they "only" need to do 3 courses, but they won't pass them if they don't work hard. |
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