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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am Post subject: Cheap PC upgrade... where to buy parts... |
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I'm planning to do an upgrade in a few months. My computer is beginning to feel a bit dated hardware wise, especially when it comes to the newest games.
I'm looking for:
-An Intel i5 or i7 CPU, whichever is the most bang for buck.
-A 64GB SSD drive to put games on for faster read/write. I have a few games that have stutter issues with traditional HDDs.
-A new mobo to house this. Not really picky about the brand.
-4GB worth of fast Ram on a budget... DDR3?
-Maybe a new case as my current case isn't fairing too well. It's survived several trips around the world in a suitcase.
I don't need a video card/DVD drive or a PSU. I'm content with what I already have in this department (GTX 275/DVDRW/660w Zalman).
Should I just go to Yongsan with a wishlist and have them built it on the spot? Or should I order the parts online and assemble myself?
I'm trying to keep it all under W400,000.
Which website would you recommend? Don't recommend one that requires a Korean ID as I don't have a Korean handy. |
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sheriffadam
Joined: 10 May 2010
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Surely the newer games are going to require more uptodate GPU power?
I don't think you'll truly realise the performance boost of the CPU/SSD with a GTX275 onboard? What res do you game at?
I know it hurts, but up the budget to contain a newer GPU also?
I also don't think an SSD is required for the smooth playing of games, what games and under what conditions is the stuttering? I'd heartily recommend an SSD for faster booting+general PC experience, but would also just use a normal (but still decent) HDD for game installs.
Might it be your current storage is not up to the job?
A fairly normal 1tb Samsung drive would be fast and quiet enough to use nicely everyday
Having an SSD big enough for Win7+Game installs would be costly! |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| sheriffadam wrote: |
Surely the newer games are going to require more uptodate GPU power?
I don't think you'll truly realise the performance boost of the CPU/SSD with a GTX275 onboard? What res do you game at? |
Only 1680x1050. A GTX 275 should be fine for that, especially considering most PC games these days are just ported in from consoles. Most PC gamers probably won't really have to update their GPUs until the next generation of consoles come out.
The game that is causing me to update is Arma 2. There are some mods coming out from it that I want to play and my computer simply can't handle the engine well--specifically urban environments. Arma 2 doesn't rely on the GPU very much, it relies much more on the CPU and the Ram. An SSD is important because of the amount of texture data the game requires which leads to a lot of choppiness people experience with it, even on the best rigs.
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| I know it hurts, but up the budget to contain a newer GPU also? |
Eventually. It's weird but I thought my 275 was still pretty damn near the top of the line. I thought it was still bragging rights. Most of the gamers I know are still running 8800/9800s unless they upgrade frequently.
I have to focus on the other stuff first because if you think my GPU is old... Let's just say that the majority of my hardware is so 2005.
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I also don't think an SSD is required for the smooth playing of games, what games and under what conditions is the stuttering? I'd heartily recommend an SSD for faster booting+general PC experience, but would also just use a normal (but still decent) HDD for game installs.
Might it be your current storage is not up to the job?
A fairly normal 1tb Samsung drive would be fast and quiet enough to use nicely everyday |
I just want a 64GB SDD to be a slave drive. I'm only going to put "pesky" games on it that require a large amount of texture swapping. I'll use my big HDD for everything else. |
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sheriffadam
Joined: 10 May 2010
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: |
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You'll have to post your current rig  I'm using a laptop here, nothing flash! Dreaming of a SandyBridge build...
Seem's backwards to me to have an SSD and only install games to it, has to be OS+your single current favourite game surely to feel the benefit? |
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vDroop
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:56 am Post subject: |
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SSD has minimal impact on gaming. It will boost your times a little at loading screens but it isn't going to increase frame rates or anything.
Your 275 was a strong card 2 years ago. Now its 2 generations behind. It doesn't even run DX11.
I think 400,000 is too low for what u are trying to do.
Don't buy that stuff at Yongsan. Order online, build yourself. |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| vDroop wrote: |
SSD has minimal impact on gaming. It will boost your times a little at loading screens but it isn't going to increase frame rates or anything.
Your 275 was a strong card 2 years ago. Now its 2 generations behind. It doesn't even run DX11.
I think 400,000 is too low for what u are trying to do.
Don't buy that stuff at Yongsan. Order online, build yourself. |
+1 for most of the post, save the 'build it yourself' angle. I have been seeing more than usual hardware failures right from the get-go. Nothing crappier than getting home (or having the goods arrive), building the rig and having a bad stick of RAM or the like. Also, returns from online buying are somewhat more problematic (if only from a time perspective) than taking it back in person, in which case things are typically sorted without question on the spot. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've decided to buy a new rig. The only things I guess I should keep from my current computer is the PSU, which is a relatively new Zalman 660 and the HDD.
Everything else will be new.
The reason being is that my computer is starting to show some wear and tear from all the times I've shipped it/moved it. The case isn't the same shape as it was when I bought it (lots of dents) and there are looming hardware problems (sometimes I have to fight with it to get it to start).
I got a pretty good deal at one store in Yongsan so I might go there for my next rig. They let you choose the specs and they built it on the spot. As far as I know, the prices are pretty reasonable. I googled them all when I bought my last rig and each component seemed to cost relatively the same as what it was advertised for online. No markups or anything.
If I want to keep the new computer under $600 or so, what specs should I shoot for? It should have a good video card as I do game with it. A good CPU is a must too. I'm far less picky about the rest of the hardware. |
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archmagos
Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Stalin84 wrote: |
| If I want to keep the new computer under $600 or so, what specs should I shoot for? It should have a good video card as I do game with it. A good CPU is a must too. I'm far less picky about the rest of the hardware. |
I'm quite partial to AMD CPUs these days. A lot cheaper than Intel's and offer much better bang for the buck (considering the $600 budget).
Video cards harder, but I believe that ATI's 59xx cards are still coming out on top. However, I'm still using an Nvidia GTX260 and have no complaints (although I'm not as heavily into gaming as I once was ... I use the card mainly for HD video decoding in Ubuntu).
Don't skimp on RAM though ... I'd suggest at 8GB or so. |
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jackdaniels
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: Wait |
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According to the latest news P67/H67 chipsets from intel will all be recalled.
But if you don't mind the hassle...
15 2500K 325,000 (Can overclock @ 4.7GHz easily with MB Below)
ASUS p8p67 250,000
G.SKILL DDR3 4G PC3-12800 CL7 RIPJAWS RM 156,000
GTX460 EXTREME overclocked D5 1GB Turbo Cool+ 265,000
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Or I have lying around...
i7 920
ASUS P6TD Deluxe
4 GB PC-12800 Gskill Ripjaws CAS 7
GTX 480
plus an aftermarket cooler forgot which make!
all as a set for 750!  |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Wait |
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| jackdaniels wrote: |
Or I have lying around...
i7 920
ASUS P6TD Deluxe
4 GB PC-12800 Gskill Ripjaws CAS 7
GTX 480
plus an aftermarket cooler forgot which make!
all as a set for 750! |
Dude, I'd buy that from you if you could wait a few months. Unfortunately I'm poor right now as I haven't recieved my first paycheque. Considering selling just the tower or only as a set? |
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