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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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 Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
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Like hell.
To prove this you would have to provide evidence that they DON'T grab their "own" women's tucheses when they are with men of their "own" "race".
We both know, however, that you can't, and you won't. |
What are you blubbering about? |
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LOL, I'm serious. I don't understand your question. Are you asking me to provide evidence that a woman's boyfriend is not grabbing her ass if she isn't of Korean race or he isn't of Korean race or some kind of race happening somewhere at top speed on a subway in Seoul or in Korea or in some place that looks like or smells like Korea in the Northern Hemisphere or some place on planet earth? Is that your question? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Lastrova wrote: |
| LOL, I'm serious. I don't understand your question. Are you asking me to provide evidence that a woman's boyfriend is not grabbing her ass if she isn't of Korean race or he isn't of Korean race or some kind of race happening somewhere at top speed on a subway in Seoul or in Korea or in some place that looks like or smells like Korea in the Northern Hemisphere or some place on planet earth? Is that your question? |
He's saying that you can't prove that Korean guys don't grab the asses of Korean girls who are out with Korean guys. And he's right, you can't prove it, because it's basically an unprovable point. That doesn't mean you're wrong though. |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
He's saying that you can't prove that Korean guys don't grab the asses of Korean girls who are out with Korean guys. And he's right, you can't prove it, because it's basically an unprovable point. That doesn't mean you're wrong though. |
Thanks northway. And you're right, I really wouldn't want to prove that point because I really don't care enough. Theoretically, of course they do, because Korean men also feel jealousy of other Korean men, compete for the same women, fight over the same women, and get their hearts broken by the same women. It's natural that there would be unwanted physical contact between them coming out of bars, when drunk, when vulnerable, when rejected. Korean men can be extremely territorial, strutting peacocks. And there are plenty of Korean alpha males who want the privileges that come with being the top rooster. Men are men for all the cultural baggage that they collect over the years. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| Lastrova wrote: |
Thanks northway. And you're right, I really wouldn't want to prove that point because I really don't care enough. Theoretically, of course they do, because Korean men also feel jealousy of other Korean men, compete for the same women, fight over the same women, and get their hearts broken by the same women. It's natural that there would be unwanted physical contact between them coming out of bars, when drunk, when vulnerable, when rejected. Korean men can be extremely territorial, strutting peacocks. And there are plenty of Korean alpha males who want the privileges that come with being the top rooster. Men are men for all the cultural baggage that they collect over the years. |
If you didnt' care you wouldn't have written another 10 lines on it. |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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If you didnt' care you wouldn't have written another 10 lines on it. |
Well, just imagine how much more I could have written if I were invested in the topic. Anyways, it piqued my intellectual curiosity and I played around with the idea--and out it comes. Sorry.  |
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chachee99
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| 1 in 4? I ride the subway all the time and I never see that much harassment. I suppose the girl has to define what harrassment is. If it's talking to them or looking at them, then sorry that doesn't count. That is not harrassment, that's insecurity. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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If the question was 'Have you ever been harrassed while riding the subway?' meaning, at least once in their life, I bet it is even more than 1 in 4.
Regularily, clearly so much less than 25%.
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| 1 in 4? I ride the subway all the time and I never see that much harassment. I suppose the girl has to define what harrassment is. If it's talking to them or looking at them, then sorry that doesn't count. That is not harrassment, that's insecurity. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| chachee99 wrote: |
| 1 in 4? I ride the subway all the time and I never see that much harassment. I suppose the girl has to define what harrassment is. If it's talking to them or looking at them, then sorry that doesn't count. That is not harrassment, that's insecurity. |
Are you paying attention all the time? Harassment is most likely to take place in very crowded cars where visibility is limited. Is it really that hard to believe 1 in 4 have been harassed at one point in their lives. I'm surprised it's not higher. It happened to my girlfriend who was grabbed by some ajeossi. Fortunately, my girlfriend's awesome and planted her high heel into his foot. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| I never saw anybody beat their spouse in Korea. Ergo, I will not believe any statistics I read about it. |
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chachee99
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| 1 in 4? I ride the subway all the time and I never see that much harassment. I suppose the girl has to define what harrassment is. If it's talking to them or looking at them, then sorry that doesn't count. That is not harrassment, that's insecurity. |
Are you paying attention all the time? Harassment is most likely to take place in very crowded cars where visibility is limited. Is it really that hard to believe 1 in 4 have been harassed at one point in their lives. I'm surprised it's not higher. It happened to my girlfriend who was grabbed by some ajeossi. Fortunately, my girlfriend's awesome and planted her high heel into his foot. |
I ridet he subway too the time and for a few years and I have never really seen an old man grab a young woman and have her inflict pain on the other person. I mean, I have been pushed around on the subway and bus, but that was due to it being too full. oh, if staring counts, I have been harrassed several times. But staring really doesn't count as harassment. |
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gypsymaria
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I got my butt patted the other day on the subway.
I was ready to turn around and give the pervert what-for, when I realized it was just a sweet little ajumma trying to get my attention so she could offer me an empty seat. I think she was trying for my back, but couldn't reach that high. 
I thanked her and sat down. 
In all seriousness, though, I haven't had a problem... yet. A bit of rough shoving when it gets really crowded and people want off, but no actual harassment. Not to say I don't think anyone HASN'T experienced harassment on the subways-- I totally believe that. But so far, people have been either very polite to me or just generically rude (shoving, etc). |
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s.tickbeat
Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Actually unwanted contact of any kind including verbal harassment absolutely counts as harassment. Like it or not, 'hey sweetie you're looking good' or something along those lines can be just as threatening as an ass-pinch, and just as disgusting. It's not insecure to consider that harassment, it's legit.
In Korea though I've really only experienced the physical kind, mostly by older men. And I've also seen younger men flip out on adjosshis about it. I think that such behavior is becoming less acceptable.
The strange thing is that I've found that foreigners here much more threatening than any grab-ass adjosshis, probably because foreigners speak clear, understandable, extremely crude English and I find grab-ass more disgusting and distasteful than threatening. |
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lostinincheon
Joined: 04 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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I actually thought 1 in 4 was quite a low figure considering the amount of stories I have heard about subway molestation.
Most of the accounts seemed to describe being rubbed by a man sitting along side them as he pretended to search his pocket for something. |
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gypsymaria
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm... If verbal counts, maybe I HAVE encountered such harassment. But since I don't know Korean, I might not have even noticed. 
Maybe ignorance is bliss. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm... If verbal counts, maybe I HAVE encountered such harassment. But since I don't know Korean, I might not have even noticed.
Maybe ignorance is bliss. |
Oh believe me, it is. |
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