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Help choosing a fabulous city to live in?
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jennad



Joined: 02 Dec 2010
Location: San Diego

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Help choosing a fabulous city to live in? Reply with quote

I'm in the process of moving to Korea, and I'm still researching different cities. I'm leaning more towards the south, and but I'm definitely open to anywhere. Can anyone give me advice on where to live? Subjective, I know, but I'll give a list of things I'm looking for:

-Big enough that I can meet other Westerners
-Not so big that I'm fighting traffic/crowds all of the time (so probably not Seoul)
-Not a concrete jungle--I want some greenery, easy access to hiking/outdoors
-Clean air
-Being near water, either a river or ocean, would be ideal, but not absolutely necessary

Thanks for your help!
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jonah47



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: San Jose, CA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would give Busan a look over although maybe a little too large for you.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan is best. Daegu is dire.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ulsan and Pohang get a little stick about the clean air but its not as bad as some claim. Not as big as Busan 1 million and 600k respectively but both on the ocean with beaches, tight knit foreigner communities as well, both within a couple hours of Busan (as well as Daegu) and plenty of hiking and greenery. Busan is great but also has some urban sprawl as well and can be congested within the city proper so just outside of Busan may tick off the boxes for your list.
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jennad



Joined: 02 Dec 2010
Location: San Diego

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I was actually looking into Daegu....why is it dire?

Has anyone heard anything about Yeosu or Geoje? My friend just got a job on Geoje Island and it looks pretty cool.
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willteachforfood



Joined: 24 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for a "fabulous" place to live then you will want to look at a different country. You will be able to find a reasonable place to live here, but there is not a single city in this country that qualifies as "fabulous".

I think that Yeosu might just qualify for your other criteria, however. If you like nature/hiking then you'll be much happier down south. Jeollanam-do is way better to live in than Gyeonggi-do, and Gangwon-do is too cold and too scarcely populated. You will meet plenty of westerners in Yeosu and it's big enough to have all of the basics (shopping, restaurants, cinemas, etc.), plus Suncheon is just up the road with more options and lots of foreigner bars.

Koreans love concrete, so for the most part every city is pretty similar, and architecturally mostly depressing....so if you want nature you should live in a smaller town and buy yourself a vehicle to get out of town on the weekends.
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jennad



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Location: San Diego

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willteachforfood wrote:
If you are looking for a "fabulous" place to live then you will want to look at a different country. You will be able to find a reasonable place to live here, but there is not a single city in this country that qualifies as "fabulous".

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Thanks for the realistic, albeit depressing information. I realize that Korea is Korea--I'm not expecting the French Riviera or Tuscan countryside--I'm just looking for a great place to live that suits my needs.

Thanks for the info on Yeosu! Where did you/do you live in Korea?
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willteachforfood



Joined: 24 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jennad wrote:
willteachforfood wrote:
If you are looking for a "fabulous" place to live then you will want to look at a different country. You will be able to find a reasonable place to live here, but there is not a single city in this country that qualifies as "fabulous".

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Thanks for the realistic, albeit depressing information. I realize that Korea is Korea--I'm not expecting the French Riviera or Tuscan countryside--I'm just looking for a great place to live that suits my needs.

Thanks for the info on Yeosu! Where did you/do you live in Korea?


I live up north now, but I have lived in a couple of the medium-sized Jeollanam-do cities....not Yeosu, but similar to. I have been to Yeosu and it was nice enough, within the context of Korea.

I didn't mean to sound depressing....Korean cities actually are improving, but for the most part city planning and architecture here is appalling compared to the developed world. Korea, in many ways, is still a developing country. Economically and infra-structurally they are developed, but in many other ways they are not even close to the level of development that you find in Europe/North America/Australasia...not even close...and don't let any of these Korea-maniacs tell you otherwise....even with current trends changing, this country is chock full of communist style concrete block apartment buildings that look more like the USSR in the 80s than the "thriving Asian hub" that Korea wishes to portray itself as.

All that being said...this is an interesting enough place to live for a couple of years, and there is enough to see/do here to keep you busy for that time frame....after a couple years, however, life in Korea definitely becomes less and less "fabulous" as you put it.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything kind of looks the same.
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willteachforfood



Joined: 24 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Everything kind of looks the same.


The south IS nicer, though. It's less polluted (still polluted of course, but less), and the countryside is more interesting to explore (if you have your own vehicle, a MUST in Korea).

I think that the most important thing with regards to happiness in Korea is finding good friends. If you've got at least 3-4 proper friends then you'll have fun here, but if you live somewhere that's too small to make friends then there just isn't enough that is magical about this country to make you enjoy it on your own.
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Mariella713



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like Daejeon. Parks, rivers and hiking oppurtunities in abundance. Less crowded than Seoul and less polluted. You can be sure to bump into foreigners in any Holly's Coffee or Dunkin Doughnut's (btw I prefer the foreigners in Daejeon to Seoul, they're more friendly in my experience ahem). Only about 1 hour to Seoul by train, if that aswell.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

City planning in a lot of the cities is pretty chaotic. Basically the houses came before the roads, and residential roads weren't built for the massive amount of cars Koreans have now.
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Ilsan? It's a nice upscale planned city with a big lake park, and close enough to Seoul that you can go there when you feel the need for the big city.

If you'd rather live in the south near the coast, I've heard good things about Changwon, which is a another planned city about an hour from Busan.
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Gnawbert



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Help choosing a fabulous city to live in? Reply with quote

Chuncheon qualifies for most of those.

It has clean air, a lake and a bunch of rivers, wonderful hiking and pretty friendly locals. Also, it's now connected to Seoul via the subway system although it's not exactly a short commute. I don't know about the other Foreigners but I'm sure there are nice ones and odd ones just like everywhere else.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jennad wrote:
Thanks for the tips. I was actually looking into Daegu....why is it dire?

Has anyone heard anything about Yeosu or Geoje? My friend just got a job on Geoje Island and it looks pretty cool.


It isn't. I've visited many times. I've rarely ever heard anyone that lives there call it that. Its almost always someone who has never visited or just parotting what those that have never visited or people who have and has never fitted in anywhere have said. Its a large city, very large (2.75 mil pop), has a large number of foreigners, lots of hiking outside the city, no beaches but parks and a river. Huge downtown area with bars of all types. There is a large military base there though (Army and Air Force) so you will see some military guys.

Someone mentioned Daejeon as well and its also a great city. Right in the middle of the country so its close to all major points by high speed train. A big city (1.5 mil people) and plenry of parks, river and unlike a lot of places actually has multiple areas for bars, etc. Korea pretty much looks the same though.

Even Kwangju in the south of Korea is pretty good as well. Over a million people, has bars and enough foreigners. The 6 or 7 largest cities will have more than enough foreigners, parks, rivers (possibly a beach), hiking, bars, etc. to have a good time while you're in Korea.

I could put you in the middle of a row of apartment complexes and you couldn't tell if you were in any city of size. You can find foreigners in any city of size. My advice is research the city but also the right job is of paramount importance. Doesn't matter how great your social life is, if the job sucks it makes anywhere unbearable. Having a lot of foreigners is one thing but finding the right set of friends is also important. You can find good friends anywhere, all cities have good people to hang out with (as well as jerks), but that's the case in western countries as well.
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