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naturegirl321
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| Carbon wrote: |
| FLI. Not a university position in any way, shape or form. Again, I was speaking of the reputation of the institution, not how they pay or treat the staff. Why are people unable to separate these ideas? You can give me any facts you like, but it won't change the fact that the SKY unis are the most reputable. |
Agreed. And it's not only their reputation, it's their pay as well. I'm pretty sure that tons of peopel woulndn't be vying for one job if the pay was not too good. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Does one university gig generally lead to another? |
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| is so delicious wrote: |
Anyway... I have another job offer- actually I signed the contract already- that is paying more per month (though the uni job pays pretty well- 3.0, but no housing or severance, compared with 3.1 and no housing, but severance). . |
I'm sorry, but was this part (in bold) overlooked by everyone? No housing and no severnce? Is this standard for university jobs?
That first one is already a dealbreaker for me. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Does one university gig generally lead to another? |
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| isitts wrote: |
| is so delicious wrote: |
Anyway... I have another job offer- actually I signed the contract already- that is paying more per month (though the uni job pays pretty well- 3.0, but no housing or severance, compared with 3.1 and no housing, but severance). . |
I'm sorry, but was this part (in bold) overlooked by everyone? No housing and no severnce? Is this standard for university jobs?
That first one is already a dealbreaker for me. |
I thought places HAD to provide severance. NO housing is doable, but I'd like to have severance. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Does one university gig generally lead to another? |
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| isitts wrote: |
| is so delicious wrote: |
Anyway... I have another job offer- actually I signed the contract already- that is paying more per month (though the uni job pays pretty well- 3.0, but no housing or severance, compared with 3.1 and no housing, but severance). . |
I'm sorry, but was this part (in bold) overlooked by everyone? No housing and no severnce? Is this standard for university jobs?
That first one is already a dealbreaker for me. |
A monthly stipend is typically provided and one can usually take a dorm room for a small monthly deduction. Overlooked in this thread perhaps, but fairly well-known to most. |
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TECO
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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SKY schools don't always the best contracts.
I've seen some pretty bad, in fact some of the worst, contracts from SNU and Yonsei. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Does one university gig generally lead to another? |
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| Carbon wrote: |
| A monthly stipend is typically provided and one can usually take a dorm room for a small monthly deduction. Overlooked in this thread perhaps, but fairly well-known to most. |
Ask just in case, my uni doesn't provide housing, a stipend, or key money. |
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Harpeau
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends on the university. One friend of mine told me that the hiring committee were to simply look at the photos and pull out the best looking unmarried ones that they could find. 
Each university is different, I guess. |
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livinginkorea
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Does one university gig generally lead to another? |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
| is so delicious wrote: |
Anyway... I have another job offer- actually I signed the contract already- that is paying more per month (though the uni job pays pretty well- 3.0, but no housing or severance, compared with 3.1 and no housing, but severance). . |
I'm sorry, but was this part (in bold) overlooked by everyone? No housing and no severnce? Is this standard for university jobs?
That first one is already a dealbreaker for me. |
I thought places HAD to provide severance. NO housing is doable, but I'd like to have severance. |
Some universities, especially the private ones have their own pension so they can give it with your monthly salary or at the end of the year contract. It would be specified in your contract. One place I worked at did this. I have no problem with it; either way you are getting the extra month's pay. |
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livinginkorea
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| TECO wrote: |
SKY schools don't always the best contracts.
I've seen some pretty bad, in fact some of the worst, contracts from SNU and Yonsei. |
A few years back a friend of mine was working in SNU. She said the arrogance there was unbelievable and the pay was 2.0. This is a good few years back.
Basically they can pay less 'cas of the name and some people will always follow the name. I heard that Yonsei was decent enough in pay, especially in the second campus. |
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TECO
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkorea wrote: |
| TECO wrote: |
SKY schools don't always the best contracts.
I've seen some pretty bad, in fact some of the worst, contracts from SNU and Yonsei. |
A few years back a friend of mine was working in SNU. She said the arrogance there was unbelievable and the pay was 2.0. This is a good few years back.
Basically they can pay less 'cas of the name and some people will always follow the name. I heard that Yonsei was decent enough in pay, especially in the second campus. |
That is the information I have also - even the salary.
The Chair of the program I spoke with was arrogant. This isn't unusual, though, for professors in top schools to behave this way in Korea or Japan. I don't quite get it myself but since folks over here are so sensitive about this kind of thing, the profs doing the hiring know they can use it as clout over people - and many of them do.
I'd rather work at a low ranked school and be treated right than at a top school like those in the SKY group and be treated unfairly with a low-ball salary. No big deal, why would I care about the rep of the school; I'm not the one graduating? I'm just looking for the best working conditions I can find. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkorea wrote: |
| TECO wrote: |
SKY schools don't always the best contracts.
I've seen some pretty bad, in fact some of the worst, contracts from SNU and Yonsei. |
A few years back a friend of mine was working in SNU. She said the arrogance there was unbelievable and the pay was 2.0. This is a good few years back.
Basically they can pay less 'cas of the name and some people will always follow the name. I heard that Yonsei was decent enough in pay, especially in the second campus. |
At Yonsei, the pay and conditions are much much better at the main Seoul campus. |
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