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northway
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
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http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus0602.pdf
Table 42: 32,443 white women raped by black men, 0 black women raped by white men.
White people have every right to point out their victimization at the hand of black criminals. Whites do not attack blacks to anywhere near the same numbers that blacks attack whites. To the extent whites are hostile to blacks - and many are - it is almost entirely due to black crime. |
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| *Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
^ Holy sh** at that! I'm skeptical of gov't figures (as anyone should be), but damn.
Even if those numbers are only in the ballpark they're still shocking. |
The Duke Lacrosse rape case makes much more sense now, doesn't it. |
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kcs0001
Joined: 24 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Africans and diaspora blacks ALWAYS need a healthy host tax base to thrive.
This happens in Europe, the US, China or even in Korea. The tried and true
weapon in their toolkit is to cry "racism" if denied more subsidies or council
housing at taxpayer expense. I have no way of knowing if its black culture
or tribalism, but wherever there is a large population of blacks in the
developed world, there is crime, welfare dependence, resentment, poor
educational achievement. Blacks want to hear none of this as evidenced of
the ethnic Korean former chancellor of DC public schools. If the government gives them more money, its a racist payoff. If the government ties money to performance, its racist. |
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Fat_Elvis

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: In the ghetto
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| African-Americans were brought to the USA in chains as slaves and have suffered centuries of some of the worst kinds of racism. If there is a culture of crime, violence and welfare dependency in parts of the African-American community it is surely largely attributable to this. |
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kcs0001
Joined: 24 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| African-Americans were brought to the USA in chains as slaves and have suffered centuries of some of the worst kinds of racism. If there is a culture of crime, violence and welfare dependency in parts of the African-American community it is surely largely attributable to this. |
Of those brought from Africa to the USA composed 6% of the total of the slave trade. Blacks were trafficked by other Africans to middlemen. Most
were destined to South and Central America, the Carribean, the Medeterranian and other African countries.
More Africans have immigrated to the U.S. than were ever brought as chattel.
There are no prohibitions on emmigration from the U.S. |
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Fox

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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| African-Americans were brought to the USA in chains as slaves and have suffered centuries of some of the worst kinds of racism. If there is a culture of crime, violence and welfare dependency in parts of the African-American community it is surely largely attributable to this. |
Even if what you say is 100% true (and I'm not sure it is; it sounds more like a popular narrative than a genuine analysis to me, specifically designed to take any and all burden off of blacks for their own perceived problems and heap it onto whites, in a similar fashion to blaming all of Africa's dysfunction on colonialism), it's also largely irrelevant with regards to solving the current problem. History cannot be changed.
I think we far too readily dismiss the possibility that different peoples who evolved in different environments are more likely to be disposed towards different modes of life. |
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Fat_Elvis

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: In the ghetto
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| kcs0001 wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| African-Americans were brought to the USA in chains as slaves and have suffered centuries of some of the worst kinds of racism. If there is a culture of crime, violence and welfare dependency in parts of the African-American community it is surely largely attributable to this. |
Of those brought from Africa to the USA composed 6% of the total of the slave trade. Blacks were trafficked by other Africans to middlemen. Most
were destined to South and Central America, the Carribean, the Medeterranian and other African countries.
More Africans have immigrated to the U.S. than were ever brought as chattel.
There are no prohibitions on emmigration from the U.S. |
I'm trying to understand what you are saying. Slaves brought to the USA comprised 6% of the total slave trade, the others going to places like South and Central America. But surely that doesn't mean that 6% of African-Americans came from the slave trade, that 6% that came to the USA might be 70, 80 or 90% of the total number of African-Americans now living in the USA. I don't know, I don't have any figures handy. What's your source?
Also, this in no way denies the fact that African-Americans have suffered enormous racism in the USA, which contributes to them being disproportionately represented in crime figures. This might also partly be due to racial profiling eg African-American men are assumed to be criminals, and are therefore unfairly targeted by police. |
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Fat_Elvis

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: In the ghetto
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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P.S. According to this lady the number of African Americans who can trace their genealogy back to slaves is about 85-90%. Quite a few of those who can't directly trace their lineage back to slaves in the USA come from the Caribbean where they were also brought as slaves.
http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread05/Feb18/slavery.html |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Hate filled posts. You guys are so scared of black people.
Do you feel inadequate ? Too much porn make you feel small ?
Don't watch Blacks on Blondes, you'll lose your mind and end it all  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| ^Grow up (and you know you need to if I'm the one telling you) |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Slavery had been widely practiced in Africa long before Europeans began purchasing and transporting slaves to the New World. Even after the trans-Atlantic slave trade began, Africans kept more slaves for themselves than they sold to white visitors. Although westerners owned slaves just as people all over the world had for thousands of years, westerners were the first to recognize that slavery was wrong. Abraham Lincoln said, "If slavery is not wrong, nothing is not wrong." |
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Menino80

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| kcs0001 wrote: |
Of those brought from Africa to the USA composed 6% of the total of the slave trade. Blacks were trafficked by other Africans to middlemen. Most
were destined to South and Central America, the Carribean, the Medeterranian and other African countries.
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More Africans have immigrated to the U.S. than were ever brought as chattel.
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again, so? you're comparing 1 century of slavery numbers to 2 centuries 19th and 20th immigration numbers, when transportation was easier and populations were higher. no sheet immigration numbers are higher. what's your point?
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There are no prohibitions on emmigration from the U.S. |
racist BS. go back to where they came from? unbelievable |
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Menino80

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
Hate filled posts. You guys are so scared of black people.
Do you feel inadequate ? Too much porn make you feel small ?
Don't watch Blacks on Blondes, you'll lose your mind and end it all  |
so, stereotypes are bad, unless it results in insecure girls putting out? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Kepler wrote: |
| westerners were the first to recognize that slavery was wrong. |
Anyone care to confirm or refute this one? |
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conrad2
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Blacks are practicing full on slavery now, in 2011, in Africa and Haiti. |
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