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obsessions



Joined: 01 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: Glossophobia (Fear of Public Speaking) Reply with quote

Hello all,

I'm considering pursuing ESL teaching in Korea, but there's something in my way: a terrible phobia of public speaking. My phobia is rather severe, to the point that I have suffered a few full-blown panic attacks. I like tutoring people one-on-one, and many people have told me I would make a good teacher, but I would hate to go all the way to Korea and be debilitated by this phobia.

Has anyone here been able to overcome a fear of public speaking to be a successful ESL teacher? If so, how? Horror stories of people who crashed and burned are also welcome.
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jdsolo



Joined: 25 Jan 2011
Location: Hell

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not an expert by any means..

But from my own personal experience, I think the fear of speaking in front of people is based on the fact that you're afraid of your peers/superiors judging you.

I think if you remember that the people you're teaching are kids, it might help. They don't know anything and you're the boss. Going in with that mindset might alleviate any fears.

At least, that's my plan when I finally get to go to Korea to teach ESL! If you go before me, let me know how it works Wink

Seriously though, I think you should just go and do it. You might overcome it just from the fact that you're so far from home and you have no other option. Smile
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grant gerstners



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My history was one of great discomfort being in front of people presenting ANY material. My years in university included many papers and tests, but did not include a single instance of me making a spoken presentation. Later, my years of work rarely required me to speak in front of a group of people.

Like you, I began with tutoring English with people one-on-one.

From there, I worked with small groups of adult immigrants, in a weekly classroom setting with a non-profit literacy group, as a volunteer. The groups were from 1 to 9 individuals at a time--but usually just 3 or 4. I did that for 9 months and discovered early on that I was having a very enjoyable time with the immigrants, who were involved and participating.

In the 90 minutes we were together each week, I was mostly in front writing on the board, presenting material and giving opportunities for practice. Each time, I totally forgot my fear of being in front of people to present material. I think forgetting my fear was at least partly a consequence of me having a sense of actually helping these people with something they needed to thrive in their new culture.

I left each week feeling I had accomplished something and had really helped most of these people with learning some aspect of their new language. Most of the adults, of course, were motivated to learn English and had daily opportunities to be surrounded by their new language and use it in real situations. Their progress and motivation fed my own motivation.

The situation is different, here in Korea. The kids do not need English to get by in their daily lives. They are not surrounded by their new language, so their progress is slow. With few exceptions, most of them are really not interested in learning English. I cover conversation, but they are not tested on that and nothing they do with me is graded. They are more focused on the material covered by their Korean teachers--grammar, vocabulary, writing, etc--which the students ARE tested and graded on.

Still, I do my best to give them an opportunity to use conversation with me.

My ability to be in front of people presenting material has gradually continued to improve. I think I am more capable of being organized and confident in my presentation, compared to when i first arrived. I go to class with my material prepared and a written sequence of what I am going to cover.

It has been helpful for me to be around other teachers here, both Koreans and non-Koreans, and watch them work with students.

Ideally, you should start with elementary, perhaps middle-school students, when you decide to come to South Korea--although with public schools you are stuck with where they decide to put you (as far as I can tell).

I think it can work out for you.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea cured my fear of public speaking!

In grad school simply having to give a short seminar in front of a handful of supportive peers meant a sleepless night beforehand, dry throat, brain freeze, even dizziness. I had no idea if I'd be able to handle a classroom when I arrived here in my late 40s.

Turned out, hagwon teaching was an awesome opportunity to work through it. Small classes of credulous kids, no one looking over your shoulder, little missteps not a big deal you just try something new tomorrow. Eventually things start to click. You stop second-guessing yourself. Thinking on your feet becomes second nature.

I actually relish the chance to address groups now, the larger the better. I'm no super-speaker but a few times a year I'm invited to present to large auditoriums & I find it exhilarating.

Notice I stipulated hagwons above. Someone mortified at the prospect of public speaking might be well-advised to skip public schools until they've grown a bit of confidence. Big classes & possibly a critical coteacher from the get-go might exacerbate your nervousness.

Best luck.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always hated public speaking, but teaching is different. I started out doing small tutoring sessions, with 1-8 people per class usually, and then when I got into the hagwon route it was no big deal. Plus, kids are just information receptacles, they're not judging you. You're going straight out of a book most of the time, so really you're just there to field questions and present new ideas.

In school, when giving a presentation, one was expected to do research and talk about new concepts that they had learned. I think a lot of people get stuck on the idea of sharing information with others that they just recently acquired. They feel unprepared and like they don't really know what they're talking about.

However, you're an expert in the language of English. You've spoken it all your life and even got a degree from a higher level institution primarily in English. There's likely very few areas about English that you aren't well-versed in. Remember that. This isn't just some report you're giving, it's imparting -gasp- actual knowledge as an expert in English.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Korea cured my fear of public speaking!



Same here. I still dislike public speaking, but I can do it and pretty damn well by now.

I'm not sure about the OP's case though- it seems more serious than just being afraid of speaking in front of others. The only suggestion that I can think of is to maybe start off with elementary level kids. They'll be more likely to put you at ease. Good luck!
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Glossophobia (Fear of Public Speaking) Reply with quote

obsessions wrote:
Has anyone here been able to overcome a fear of public speaking to be a successful ESL teacher? If so, how? Horror stories of people who crashed and burned are also welcome.


I feel the solution is in you. You won't be able to do this by following other people. Even if you become an eloquent speaker merely reading off cue cards, your personality and who you are will be lost. Having students fill your classroom or the lecture hall to listen will be pointless. I would rather "embrace" the fear than demolish it, which would amount to becoming a robotic figurehead for the classroom. Keep your individuality and work on sharing it.

My approach to this is to break up the class and only worry about a few students at a time. Concentrate on only 2, then their friends (4 or more), then so on. Eventually, you get the support of the class and this helps not only remove fears but make your lessons successful. If you look at it as you against the classroom, you will never win. Divide and conquer.

I grew up with an older sister. She memorized lines to plays and I would go with our parents to see her perform in high school plays. I even asked her about it while our family was painting the walls in a new cottage my parents bought. I knew the inherit fear of being in front of people without ever attempting it. I could play french horn with the school band, with a whole gym full of parents and siblings (as well as school staff) listening to us, but I could not see myself talking. It also crippled me in the classroom as a student. I knew answers to questions, but I preferred to stay silent and not engage.

Maybe I like teaching because I can identify with those students who don't want to interact as well. I am much the opposite now. I am like an aggressive salesperson trying to win the hearts of the shy. I teach mostly Koreans now, even though I am in China. Sometimes, we get mixed classes and the Koreans don't want to interact with the Chinese (and vice versa). I welcome this challenge, and I don't think about my nerves but how to get the classroom to work together.

One of my uncles took a more "community" approach to tackling his fears. He joined http://www.talkingtoastmasters.com/ Apparently, he has had success with this. You might want to try it.

Even if you feel comfortable talking to a group of 20-30 students, you will still encounter 2 other things I have experienced.

The first has to do with health. I have low blood sugar and I found out later that this can lead to panic attacks. If you don't have enough energy to deal with the task of speaking to a group, then you will become lightheaded. This doesn't mean you should eat before giving speeches or teaching (certain foods can drain your energy and prohibit you from thinking clearly, like sugar and meat). However, you should prepare something your body needs to last. It's easy to study by yourself and nibble. It's easy to teach one student and excuse yourself to get a bite of something. However, when you have 4 classes back to back, that 4th class can seem like forever if you haven't eaten breakfast. Not only will you panic, but your attitude might change and you will become bitter or seem non-caring. These things lead to changes in behavior of the students, which later lead to you worrying.

I like to keep peanuts with me. I just eat some between classes to keep me going. You could eat vegetables like carrots or a fruit like an apple. Anything with liquid will mean a trip to the bathroom. So, I avoid that. Instead bring something to drink. This way you can give your throat a chance to relax. You'll see why with the next thing you will encounter.

In China, they don't just have big classes. They have 60 students in a class. I actually don't do them any more, but it was an interesting experience. 30 of the students didn't care. They were doing math homework and the school didn't mind it. 15 of the other students would be talking and not paying attention. Out of the other 15, 5-10 would follow what I was talking about. And out of those, 2 would respond to me. That is initially. Another teacher told me that 5 was a good day. So, what can you do? Divide and conquer.

I bought a set of colored markers. Give the 2 students who talk with you a marker. Then have them choose another student. Now you have 4. From those 4 you branch out to their friends. 8, then 16. Now you have half the students who are not doing their math homework involved. Pick some topic, game, or routine to do with them. You will become so preoccupied with this that fears will go away, and you won't realize there are so many students.

Again, it all comes down to you and who you are. What are your interests and hobbies? What can YOU share with 1 student in a private one to one class? Do this with a larger class. For me, this is what helped me overcome my fears. I had to eat right, have something to share, divide and conquer, and with experience learn to respond to students. That last one will come with time.
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Skipperoo



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread, very reassuring.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely felt discomfort when talking in front of big groups of people before coming to Korea. Teaching has definitely helped that a lot. Now just to work on the 1-to-1 with strangers.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to teach in Japan rather than Korea, I can assure you that most adult students will be more nervous than you to speak in English in front of other people! I've got quite a few stories of terror-struck English students in Japan which really surprised me considering that quite a few of them held very senior corporate positions.

If you have any kind of fear or illness, and are unsure about making the commitment to come to Korea, always try things out closer to home first. Seeing what teaching is like by taking a TEFL certificate course will be a good starting point. That way, you can test yourself in the environment, get support from familiar people, and build up your confidence from there. Set yourself small goals to overcome one at a time instead of plunging yourself into a great big unknown. Also don't punish yourself for things you can't do first time around otherwise it just exacerbates the stress and pressure to overcome the problem.

I can definitely agree though, that if you get used to standing up in front of classes of people, you do gain a lot more self confidence.

Good luck!
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teaching kids is easy. start with kinder kids, and you won't even have time to think about your phobia - they'll keep you so occupied by wiping their noses and their bums you'll be sweating and cursing wanting to be back home.

just joking. seriously though, start with kinder kids. you'll have a blast if you like kids.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They make a pill for this. Seriously, look into it.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
They make a pill for this. Seriously, look into it.


What...sleeping pills? Klonopin doesn't work.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know the name of the med or meds, but I do know that they're out there. Pharmasist in the family.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few things that might prove helpful:

Bheta Blockers are pills that you take that help control the anount of adrenalin, etc. going through your system. Many actors, etc. find it helpful in calming themselves when feeling anxiety and nervousness.

Hypnotherapy might be something that might prove useful.

Exploring fears and anxieites with a trained counselor might also be helpful.

Toastmasters rocks! They're a fine organisation for improving public speaking.
There are a few books that you might want to check out as well:

Public Speaking for Wrecks. (Need to find it on my shelf. I'll then give you the author.)
(I'll think of the other books a little later.)

I think that the secret is to take your stage fright and transform the energy and make it into a fine performance. Just hang in there and keep breathing.
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