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Public position outside of Seoul vs Hagwon position in Seoul

 
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jst



Joined: 14 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:19 pm    Post subject: Public position outside of Seoul vs Hagwon position in Seoul Reply with quote

Something that's been racking my brain. I'd like to be able to do weekday classes that are offered in Seoul in the evening.

It's too late to apply for a public school position in Seoul, so there are two other options:

1. Obtain a public school position with GEPIK. Work ends at around 4:30 PM, so you then travel to Seoul after work.

2. Obtain a daytime hagwon position that ends at around 6:30 PM. Then travel to where your class is after work.


Which would be the best option to go for?
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That depends on your personality (of course you can't control for everything so you have to accept a certain element of random luck in your decision making).

Do you need to work with other foreigners? If so, then a hogwon would be better.

Sounds like your hogwon might be a kindergarten? (i'm guessing this by your 6:30pm finish time). If its a kindy then do you really want to teach students that young? Also you'll probably have to work longer hours given the way kindies are going these days.

Some GEPIK places are quite near Seoul when you look at the grand scheme of things.

So i'd go for the GEPIK one. But that's just me.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Public position outside of Seoul vs Hagwon position in S Reply with quote

jst wrote:
1. Obtain a public school position with GEPIK. Work ends at around 4:30 PM, so you then travel to Seoul after work.


1. Avoid any small city, countryside in Gyeonggi-do (GEPIK area).
2. Avoid GEPIK schools less than 100 students.
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? I've never worked for Gepik but I know somebody who might be doing that.

Can you explain your comments there.

All I know is some of those schools out there seem very demanding given they're in locations that don't seem good to live in and they order people to pay their own way to Seoul while not giving them much time to get a flight so it looks as if someone I know who is interested will have to pay a lot of money to get a ticket there and won't necessarily get all of it reimbursed. If they go.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

earthquakez wrote:
Why? I've never worked for Gepik but I know somebody who might be.

Can you explain your comments there.


From what I heard (and I do live in Gyeonggi-do right now) GEPIK now has a bad rep. And it's often towards the bad teaching conditions in small schools where some small schools don't have functional co-teachers.

I think I'm being way too esoteric right now but whatever. I wouldn't expect too much on GEPIK. The head honchos in the Gyeonggi-do Education Board are fed up with hagwons, with Seoul, with a huge scandal, and with a horrible management that they wouldn't admit.

This is overall not a positive environment for public school NETs in the near future. At first the smaller schools are the problem; it would likely be all schools later.
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful of the location with Gepik. Your commute have a 2 and a half hour commute each way. Think about it. That's 5 hours travelling each day just to get from work and back home.


I would recommend staying in Seoul at a hogwon or right on the border if you want to work at a public school.


BTW: With all the visa issues happening here. If you have all your documents ready, you could still land a public job school job in Seoul.
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