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Boss says she'll blacklist me at immigration if I run
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offtheoche



Joined: 21 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:


Sorry. I have to call BS. YOU might not be lying, but the story you were told is not true. You cannot be held for breaking a contract.


I'm not lying and it isn't BS. Why would they embassy's first secretary (with whom I had lunch), tell me this if it wasn't true?
He was surprised as well that immigration were willing to do this.

Anyway, believe me or don't believe me.....it's up to you........I'm just putting it out there to give folks a heads up that it PROBABLY won't happen to the op but it COULD happen. Rolling Eyes
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well....my head teacher is a friend and go between for me and the boss....

While I doubt the boss's ability to blacklist me....

He has blacklisted people as a supervisor(he's one of those elite korean TOEFL teachers)...so he claims.

Claims they walked out during a christmas day activity(for obvious reasons) and went to their homes....granted, I don't think they left their jobs....

I trust the guy usually, although this situation colors things(he's the mediator)
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can I report her for hiring non-qualified teachers at her hagwon?

Is there a number of an reporting agency I can call.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the 2007 Labor Standards Act

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12960127/Korean-Labor-Standards-Act-amended-in-2007

Have fun
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can report them to the local ministry of education office (you will need to speak Korean or have a Korean speaker help you).

the labor laws are on the ministry of labor website.
http://www.moel.go.kr/english/topic/laborlaw_view.jsp?idx=254&tab=Standards

From the labor standards act:
last amended, June 10, 2010.

Article 7 (Prohibition of Forced Labor)
No employer shall force a worker to work against his own
free will through the use of violence, intimidation, confinement
or any other means which unlawfully restrict mental or physical
freedom.

Article 15 (Labor Contract contrary to This Act)
(1) A labor contract which establishes working conditions
which do not meet the standards provided for in this Act shall
be null and void to that extent.
(2) Those conditions invalidated in accordance with the
provisions of paragraph (1) shall be governed by the standards
provided in this Act.

Article 20 (Prohibition of Predetermination of Nonobservance)
No employer shall enter into a contract by which a penalty
or indemnity for possible damages incurred from breach of a
labor contract is predetermined.

Article 40 (Prohibition of Interference with Employment)
No one shall prepare and use secret signs or lists, or have
communication for the purpose of interfering with employment
of a worker.

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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans with 'power' are completely delusional. So delusional in fact that a fella I worked with was told by a 'powerful' person that he would send said person back home. Of course the idiot could do no such thing. Koreans, when not getting their own way speak with no logic at all but purely on their emotions. If there are people working there illegally get on the dog and bone (phone) and call immigration, or if you have a Korean 'friend' get them to call. Good luck, but to be honest you don't need it. Remember this: though your wonjan babo is an adult in the physical sense, on a mental level you are dealing with a small child. Such ilk is two a penny in the hogwon industry here in the land of the morning calm!!!
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ttompatz, would immigration be worth a try?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtrafford wrote:
Ttompatz, would immigration be worth a try?


Not if they are F4 (gyopo) or Korean. Immigration can't touch a citizen and won't touch an F4 (past citizen); they let David Nam, wanted for murder in the US to stay here on an F4 (and work as a hagwon teacher).

The violation is under the jurisdiction of the ministry of education.
complaints should be made to the local (city or gu district education office).

It can also be made to the provincial office of education but it will get lost before it ever gets dealt with. (they are weak on enforcement unless there is some political scandal attached to it).

Complaining to immigration only works if the illegals are undocumented (no visa/expired visa/tourist visa/stamp) or working beyond the scope of their visa (Filipino or Indian factory worker teaching English while on a D10 visa).

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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers fella, thanks for the reply. Good to know sound reliable information. Hope your enjoying the 'land of smiles', do you miss the good old kimchi?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtrafford wrote:
Cheers fella, thanks for the reply. Good to know sound reliable information. Hope your enjoying the 'land of smiles', do you miss the good old kimchi?


I still work there too (consulting for 2 different POEs). I spend about 3 months a year up there and 8 months in the LOS (and 1 month on the beach at our house in the Phils).

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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand..just go to immigration and tell them yourself what your boss is doing .Tell them she is holding your visa and making illegal and unjust threats' against you. A Gyopo will understand English.

If immigration won't help you, then tell your boss what the 'real" deal is ( a proabale lawsuit).

and if none of that works', then just cry ( they'll usually let you go then).
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
I don't understand..just go to immigration and tell them yourself what your boss is doing .Tell them she is holding your visa and making illegal and unjust threats' against you. A Gyopo will understand English.

If immigration won't help you, then tell your boss what the 'real" deal is ( a proabale lawsuit).

and if none of that works', then just cry ( they'll usually let you go then).


Yep, Koreans LOVE crying, especially if the crier is a Woman. Seen it in action and implemented it myself - too awesome!
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't love it**but no one wants' to sit there and listen to someone bitch and throw a hissy fit..( they would wanna get rid of them ASAP).
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyui, Koreans love drama. You only have to observe aspects of everyday life to see it.
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, your boss is jerking your chain. She thinks she has power, but, in actuality, she doesn't. She is trying to intimidate you. Nothing more, nothing less.
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