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aneikamcd66



Joined: 17 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:29 pm    Post subject: Recruiters That Work With African American Reply with quote

With the GEPIK cuts I think I'd better start gathering a list of recruiters to contact in case my position gets cut.

Thing is, when I was last job hunting I would post my resume, get a million emails from recruiters, send my resume and pic and I wouldnt hear from them again (I'm pretty sure it's because I'm black.)

I would also respond to ads with a gazillion job postings and contact the recruiter with my pic and get told, "sorry I have no jobs for you." Again, I think its bc I'm black.

So, to spare myself the anxiety and aggrevation of finding recruiters who dont discrimnate, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend some recruiters who they KNOW for SURE DO NOT discriminate.

If you could please leave the info here or email me at [email protected] I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters That Work With African American Reply with quote

aneikamcd66 wrote:
With the GEPIK cuts I think I'd better start gathering a list of recruiters to contact in case my position gets cut.

Thing is, when I was last job hunting I would post my resume, get a million emails from recruiters, send my resume and pic and I wouldnt hear from them again (I'm pretty sure it's because I'm black.)

I would also respond to ads with a gazillion job postings and contact the recruiter with my pic and get told, "sorry I have no jobs for you." Again, I think its bc I'm black.

So, to spare myself the anxiety and aggrevation of finding recruiters who dont discrimnate, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend some recruiters who they KNOW for SURE DO NOT discriminate.

If you could please leave the info here or email me at [email protected] I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!


If you get cut (for budget reasons) and you want to stay in the PS system then simply contact your POE supervisor or city/district education office supervisor and ask for a new school. Save yourself a packet of grief.

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david



Joined: 31 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

david wrote:
Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!


David: While I think your intentions are good, having mentioned your Irish background and suggesting a potential problem that the OP may wish to address (grammar/spelling), the likely culprit in the OP's spelling errors etc is time constraints:

1. Quickly getting the post completed in order to proceed to a class/appointment/etc or avoid detection by (ever-watchful) colleagues, or

2. The ease with which many foreign ESL teachers feel they can communicate with other foreigners on Dave's without having to display impeccable grammar, etc at all times.

The intolerance of Koreans with errors in grammar etc is applied to marginalized groups (ie People of Color) even more rigorously than with preferred groups (White). Such is the application of White supremacist praxis. I think you may already be aware of this. Being an American Person of Color, I think it is quite likely that the OP is already aware of this dynamic.

Having said that, thanks for caring enough to respond to this thread. Also, thanks for the well meaning advice offered.


Last edited by TheresaTheresa on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:54 pm; edited 2 times in total
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aneikamcd66



Joined: 17 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

david wrote:
Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You

can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!



David, a few things:

1- This is Dave's ESL Cafe, not a college thesis or a resume so no, I'm not going to bother with spell check or apostrophes.

2- I'm college educated, enrolled in a master's program at a highly selective school and own multiple properties so please spare me the condescension.

3- For the record, my resume is flawless.

4- I typed the post in a hurry so get a grip.

5-- Thank you for wishing me luck.

6- There are probably errors in this response but I have a class in 3 mins so *shrug*.

Smile
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your regional GEPIK coordinator should already know if your position has been cut for next year.

I emailed mine a few months ago and she told me that my school will have funding for a teacher next year.

Of course I'm elementary and from what I understand the cuts are mostly middle and high school.

As for recruiters, I had the same problem, but the recruiters who WERE willing to work with me and were honest from the start, (they both told me being black would make it harder, but not impossible) they were definitely the better ones anyway in my opinion.
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pinishee



Joined: 02 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

david wrote:
Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!


Wow this made me laugh really hard. I can TOTALLY see the following scenario happening with the recruiter:

Man, I keep getting resumes with spelling mistakes... I got Daniel Fitzgerald's resume with a few spelling mistakes on his resume. He is DEFINITELY not a good teacher. HOWEVER, look here! Latoya's resume has no spelling mistakes! And she knows how to use contractions too! WOW! She is hired! Yaaay! PINISHEE!!!
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

pinishee wrote:
david wrote:
Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!


Wow this made me laugh really hard. I can TOTALLY see the following scenario happening with the recruiter:

Man, I keep getting resumes with spelling mistakes... I got Daniel Fitzgerald's resume with a few spelling mistakes on his resume. He is DEFINITELY not a good teacher. HOWEVER, look here! Latoya's resume has no spelling mistakes! And she knows how to use contractions too! WOW! She is hired! Yaaay! PINISHEE!!!


ROFL Laughing Laughing
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

aneikamcd66 wrote:
david wrote:
Last hired and first fired. Many Irish Americans, ancestors of mine, found this to be the case in The United States at times. This may or may not be the case for you in South Korea at the moment.

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes. ( These typos and/or oversights in your post suggest to me that your resume and cover letter might be tainted in the same way. ) Many employers and recruiters in Korea and/or elsewhere will toss your resume aside when they catch mistakes.

You

can find work in a hurry here. Good luck!



David, a few things:

1- This is Dave's ESL Cafe, not a college thesis or a resume so no, I'm not going to bother with spell check or apostrophes.

2- I'm college educated, enrolled in a master's program at a highly selective school and own multiple properties so please spare me the condescension.

3- For the record, my resume is flawless.

4- I typed the post in a hurry so get a grip.

5-- Thank you for wishing me luck.

6- There are probably errors in this response but I have a class in 3 mins so *shrug*.

Smile


To the bold - absolutely.

Question: Since he was correcting the OP's spelling and grammar I think these aspects of the English language are quite important to him. Do you think David realizes he spelled "alot" incorrectly?
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enchoo



Joined: 04 Jul 2004
Location: Heading to a reality show near you

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Hey you should try to apply university positions Reply with quote

You have some advantages with your masters.
Universities do not use recruiters at all.
Uni positions are more relaxing and you can still teach elementary students plus mature adults/uni students.

I know discrimination first hand as well so good luck to you.
Just try to be creative and offer a new approach or show strong teaching credentials. Some interesting offers popped up in Daves!!
Let me know how it goes.

I have 2 masters and it brought me some great opportunities.
The other poster is not wrong in saying that Korean are obsessed with grammar because they learn this as a separate teaching strategy. [/quote]
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Space Cowboy



Joined: 27 Mar 2010
Location: On the blessed hellride

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

david wrote:
Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.


http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

Space Cowboy wrote:
david wrote:
Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.


http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html


Thanks Space Cowboy - that was funny! Laughing
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: Recruiters that work with African Americans Reply with quote

david wrote:

Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.

Laughing
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grant gerstners



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Recruiters That Work With African American Reply with quote

aneikamcd66 wrote:
...I'm wondering if anyone can recommend some recruiters who they KNOW for SURE DO NOT discriminate.


I'm not 100% certain, but the website for JJ Recruiting has testimonials pages showing successful placement of African Americans last year.

http://jjee.co.kr/bbs/04.html shows the most recent testimonials. Go back to May through June 2010.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alot of Koreans are very intolerant with errors in grammar and spelling.
Aggrevation is aggravation, discrimnate is discriminate, and contractions contain apostrophes
Not sure if those rules apply to ebonics.
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