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naturegirl321
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| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
Actually I have never heard about a 10,000 word Thesis. Only Dissertation. At My University, a Masters Thesis was quite long (40,000 - 80,000 words???) and the PhD Thesis was supposed to be nearing 100,000 words. But as the poster says there really isn't a word count per se for a thesis.
With that all saod I DID hear about word counts for dissertations. I suspect this is what the person meant. In my uni a one paper Dissertation was 10,000 words, 2 paper disertation 20,000 words and so on up to an 8-paper 2 year one for approximately 80,000 words. We could replace any course with a one paper dissertation if we wished subject to approval of our planned topic. |
I think it depends on the school and country. Back home, they call it a thesis and it's supposed to be 20 pages or less. The school I went through in another country called it a thesis and it was supposed to be about 10K words. Other places call it a dissertation. Six of one, half a dozen of another.
IN the US, a course is a subject that you study for 16 weeks. IN Australia, a course is a degree. Sweater and jumper are the same. Different Englishes are spoken around the world. dissertation and thesis are used interchangebly.
| olsanairbase wrote: |
| Naturegirl could have written a 1,000,000 word dissertation on Higher Education Administration and it still wouldn't have qualified her to do that line of work. She simply hasn't completed related coursework to support such a publication in educational administration- let alone higher ed administration. |
 so you know my complete educational background and work experience? Serioulsy, what do you have against me? Are you jealous? |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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so you know my complete educational background and work experience? Serioulsy, what do you have against me? Are you jealous? |
I am not jealous. I just don't like liars like you. You made a claim about your certifications, and instead saying you mistake, you continue to insist your qualified in the area of higher ed administration. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| olsanairbase wrote: |
| I am not jealous. I just don't like liars like you. You made a claim about your certifications, and instead saying you mistake, you continue to insist your qualified in the area of higher ed administration. |
Not lying. Background was in Business Admin, then got into teaching. |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| olsanairbase wrote: |
| I am not jealous. I just don't like liars like you. You made a claim about your certifications, and instead saying you mistake, you continue to insist your qualified in the area of higher ed administration. |
Not lying. Background was in Business Admin, then got into teaching. |
Business Administration is not the same as Educational Administration.... It's clear you have no clue what it means to be involved in Educational Administration at any level- secondary or post-secondary. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| OP, TESOL or Applied LInguistics is basically the same. Applied Linguistics may be more theory, Just find a good school and a good programme and you should be set. |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| OP, TESOL or Applied LInguistics is basically the same. Applied Linguistics may be more theory, Just find a good school and a good programme and you should be set. |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| olsanairbase wrote: |
| I am not jealous. I just don't like liars like you. You made a claim about your certifications, and instead saying you mistake, you continue to insist your qualified in the area of higher ed administration. |
Not lying. Background was in Business Admin, then got into teaching. |
Business Administration is not the same as Educational Administration.... It's clear you have no clue what it means to be involved in Educational Administration at any level- secondary or post-secondary. It's clear you have no clue what you are talking about |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Compare courses, TESOL, Applied Linguistics, etc are just names. It comes down to the subject courses that are taught.
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Koharski
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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OK, you two have gotten off-track. Please take your differences to PMs (or better yet, just walk away). That includes making snarky comments in other posts.
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hoshi
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: online degrees |
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| I'd like to ask again about the online degrees. I noticed that the University of Phoenix has various online programs in education, but none specifically in TESOL or Applied Linguistics. For someone who wants to get into university level teaching, would any old MA in education help or should I look specifically for a TESOL/Applied Linguistics program? |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: online degrees |
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| I'd like to ask again about the online degrees. I noticed that the University of Phoenix has various online programs in education, but none specifically in TESOL or Applied Linguistics. For someone who wants to get into university level teaching, would any old MA in education help or should I look specifically for a TESOL/Applied Linguistics program? |
Applications for many college and university jobs outside of Korea will specifically say '"please list out non-online university degrees and certificates." If you plan on working outside of Korea you should consider making sure that the degree you receive will be worth something before you make that type of investment.
Regardless, you should think carefully about what type of program you want to enter. Master of Arts in Curriculum and Instruction is NOT the same as an MA in TESOL, and so on. Most MA programs that are not in TESOL or Applied Linguistics will be geared toward another area of education. An MA in Education, in general, in the states, is going to be geared toward instruction at either primary or secondary level in the states and not teaching EFL abroad.
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: online degrees |
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| hoshi wrote: |
| I'd like to ask again about the online degrees. I noticed that the University of Phoenix has various online programs in education, but none specifically in TESOL or Applied Linguistics. For someone who wants to get into university level teaching, would any old MA in education help or should I look specifically for a TESOL/Applied Linguistics program? |
I've noticed that some unis pay a bit more for those with TESOL, education, TEFL, Applied Linguistics, etc degrees, maybe an extra 100,000 or so per month. Other MA degrees are accepted by lots of universities in Korea.
I haven't heard good things about U of Phoenix, but U of Birmingham is supposed to have a VERY good Ma course.
I'd pick an MA that interests you so that you can use it in the future. Sure you won't be able to work in ALL Korean unis, but you will be able to work in some. |
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livinginkorea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the University of Birmingham's link:
http://www.cels.bham.ac.uk/
Check out the 'Open Distance Learning Programs' for more details. Also, one of the best things about Bham is that you have some time off you can actually go there and take classes reducing the time on modules, meaning you can finish quicker. It costs the exact same for on-campus and distance learning. |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkorea wrote: |
Here's the University of Birmingham's link:
http://www.cels.bham.ac.uk/
Check out the 'Open Distance Learning Programs' for more details. Also, one of the best things about Bham is that you have some time off you can actually go there and take classes reducing the time on modules, meaning you can finish quicker. It costs the exact same for on-campus and distance learning. |
Again many employers exclude online degrees
Here is an example taken from an application for one of the top unis in the ME:
Educational Qualifications:
Qualification* Date Grade/ GPA Duration Major Institution Country
*only those obtained on campus as (***omitted****) University does not recognize online degrees). |
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Carbon
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Again many employers exclude online degrees
Here is an example taken from an application for one of the top unis in the ME:
Educational Qualifications:
Qualification* Date Grade/ GPA Duration Major Institution Country
*only those obtained on campus as (***omitted****) University does not recognize online degrees). |
One is not many and I can type too. The missing link please. |
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olsanairbase
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Carbon wrote: |
| olsanairbase wrote: |
Again many employers exclude online degrees
Here is an example taken from an application for one of the top unis in the ME:
Educational Qualifications:
Qualification* Date Grade/ GPA Duration Major Institution Country
*only those obtained on campus as (***omitted****) University does not recognize online degrees). |
One is not many and I can type too. The missing link please. |
http://www.2shared.com/document/VyvqRCIk/FORMS_1__2.html
I uploaded and linked the form just for you. Are there some schools that will take online degrees? Probably. All I am saying is someone has a right to know that some schools don't accept online degrees and I would think they would want to know that before they did an online degree program then after and found out that the degree was not recognized.
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